That being said, I wouldn't support them as I would typically eat at a lounge or onboard.

AAdmirals Club paid hot food had tended to be underwhelming; I'll usually go for cheaper fast food, or better local non-fast food.

Now, the noodle bar at the CX "Wing" lounge in Hong Kong... that's good lounge food, and I don't even (usually) like Chinese food.

I made the extra effort at Hyatt Regency Maui to talk with the manager to leave a tip on account for Regency Lounge and the maid service. I was able to tip on account at the Grand Hyatt Kauai and thought I'd ask if I may do the same at HR Maui. The manager is 99% sure I can leave the tip on account, but had to confirm and let me know in the morning.

Tougher to tip on account at Hyatt's. I found that it was simple to cash out at Fairmonts for tipping.

Are you seriously tipping concierge lounge attendants? Even tipping housekeeping is unnecessary and debatable even here on FT.

And frankly, I don't see the point of putting a tip on your room charge. Isn't the point to thank the person personally for the service they provided you? Putting a generic amount on a room bill and having it distributed after the fact seems like tipping by rote and not the actual purpose of tipping.

you should not have to tip for take out or if they are rude and disrespectful and i dont tip

Which I mostly do at this point. However, a lot of these shuttle drivers are overly proactive to the point of being pushy when it comes to insisting on taking your bags for you. It has led to some unnecessarily assertiveness when saying I'd rather handle my bags myself. Does not help either when you have to see the same service people all the time on regular travel and they know you as that guy who does not tip, but I am getting over that.

I will tip a specific hotel concierge attendant if they make a recommendation for a good restaurant (or better yet get me a reservation I would be able to get as John Q) or get me into a popular nightclub without having to wait in line.

But that doesn't seem to be the case here - he specifically mentioned the lounge, and that sounds like a random tip for the sake of tipping.

I find it ironic that this is a thread about ending tipping, and yet a few posters seem to tip to excess (and appear to be very proud about it, which is their choice, but isn't the point of the thread) I think though that it shows why tipping may be so difficult to end, as the tip mentality seems to be so automated and so deeply ingrained in some people, even if it doesn't even seem to achieve the intended purpose.

I wonder if those tips added to the folio even make it to the individuals? And if so do they even know who gave them the tip? Isn't the point of a tip to express personal thanks for a service rendered?

Not sure what happened to my original post as I thought It was on the thread but my iPhone may have malfunctioned.

Maids and Club lounge personnel normally do not receive tips so I believe tipping to those who work hardest and normally do not receive tips is a good way to express sincere appreciation. Up in Club lounge last night, the servers were so helpful and engage in conversations to both my wife and I, and they work so hard.. I feel that a token of appreciation is due to the staff, whom by the way, almost insist that tipping is not necessary.

The maids work really hard and long hours in Hawaii. Some work two or three jobs trying to make ends meet. At the Orchid this year, there was a maid that served us years prior and when she saw me , she said 'Aloha, Mr. Maestro'.. Even her colleagues I don't even remember servicing my room said 'Aloha, Mr. Maestro.'

I minimize where I need to and expess sincere appreciation to whom that normally dont get recognized. I think the maids and club lounge personnel really appreciatethe recognition. Especially in Hawaii where I regard the workers like Ohana 'family'. I also make it a point where service personnel who go out of their way to make mention to the hotel management of excellent service received. I regularly drop notes, fill out employee nomination forms for those who give our family outstanding service.

For those who don't know I'm a retired airline employee (1 Yr end of Aug.) I now drive a shuttle bus to & from the airport 3days a week mainly because it's fun & the little extra money is nice. I'm friendly to everyone. I offer to help with bags & most of time end up doing it all my self. I have lots of regulars & yes many do not tip for whatever reason. I make every effort to treat all the same. Only exception are the ones with "several" heavy bags & watch me do it all then not tip. Now if I get them on the return well you know the old saying "karma is a ....." I'm thankful for any extra folks give me but if you don't I really do understand. Until I started doing this job I always tipped but never thought much about it, now I make sure I tip.

I appreciate your understanding. When you think about it, the customary $3 tip each way adds up when one travels 50 weeks a year. Not to mention the nuisance (and risk) of carrying an excessive number of $1 all the time to pay all these tips out.

Most service people do not tip they must feel they do not make enough money to give it away.

Most rich people do not feel the need to tip, they are not there to impress anyone, and they worked to get where they are at.

Most poor people over tip they are tying to impress, or look down on someone, thinking they are better or the other worker is inferior.

If I don't get the service you do not get the tip, it is that simple

The bus at the Chicago Seminar host hotel is adding $5.00 this year, must be a lot of non tippers on FT, I noticed last year he was playing taxi and very few was leaving him a dime.

On this part time job I do 3 kinds of tippers. Those who never tip. That's how you end tipping the topic of this thread. Those who under tip.(Although some get it right) Appreciated. And those who over tip helps cover those who don't tip. Really appreciated

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It doesn't sound to me that you really 'do understand'. Perhaps they don't have small change available. Perhaps they are not aware that they need to tip. Perhaps they cannot manage their bags due to age, or a physical issue.


While I don't necessarily agree with generalisations, I do have the impression from some posters that is exactly why they do tip, and often tip excessively. Reading some of the posts it is clear that they consider the service industry workers inferior and that the tips are a method of charity. The same attitude is often portrayed here by those who boast that they tip excessively towards those who don't tip in the same fashion ie that not tipping excessively makes one inferior.

I find it amusing when I witness people tipping excessively, and then see the people they tipped laughing behind their backs. I've seen this before with tour guides for multi-day trips, for instance, discussing their charges in hotel lounges etc, or shuttle bus drivers (I even complimented one at LHR recently for how he handled himself when tipped by an American traveller in a very demeaning fashion). Reading some of the posts here, I cannot blame them when they are treated as if they were being given extra gruel.

Many tours require payment of tips (though these tours are often very cheap.)
This is likely a scheme to lower the upfront price of the tour to attract more clients, and to lower any TA commissions.