Are DL Platinum Medallions losing award fee exemption benefit?
Jan 7, 2009, 1:22 pm
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Jan 7, 2009, 1:26 pm
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Jan 7, 2009, 1:27 pm
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The weirdest thing about the latest series of changes has been to reduce the difference between Gold Elite and Platinum Elite, thus reducing the customers incentive to "reach" for Platinum instead of settling for Gold and drive incremental revenue. This just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Jan 7, 2009, 1:35 pm
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I agree.
I personally think they should create a 100,000 mile tier. And those people should be treated very well. I used to be an American Airlines ExecPlatinum (way back when -- so it may have changed), but there was a real difference.
I think they are diluting Platinum by making it easy to reach (Amex mileage boost, 75m qualification, etc.) and then having to dilute the benefits as a result.
Some of us actually do fly a lot -- and we should be treated differently!
I personally think they should create a 100,000 mile tier. And those people should be treated very well. I used to be an American Airlines ExecPlatinum (way back when -- so it may have changed), but there was a real difference.
I think they are diluting Platinum by making it easy to reach (Amex mileage boost, 75m qualification, etc.) and then having to dilute the benefits as a result.
Some of us actually do fly a lot -- and we should be treated differently!
Those of us that actually had 75k BIS EQMs (without CC EQMs, or DEQM, etc) are not going to enjoy having our benefits cut. Then again, if DL makes it 100K, and then does a DEQM... hey, what the heck, time to make 100K Plat.
Jan 7, 2009, 1:40 pm
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+1. Many would be curious to know the year-to-year changes in Elite level counts (driven by the the non-BIS EQM options?), and if this is a way to "rebalance" the benefits to the Elite levels.
Those of us that actually had 75k BIS EQMs (without CC EQMs, or DEQM, etc) are not going to enjoy having our benefits cut. Then again, if DL makes it 100K, and then does a DEQM... hey, what the heck, time to make 100K Plat.
Those of us that actually had 75k BIS EQMs (without CC EQMs, or DEQM, etc) are not going to enjoy having our benefits cut. Then again, if DL makes it 100K, and then does a DEQM... hey, what the heck, time to make 100K Plat.
This game isn't as fun as it used to be.
Jan 7, 2009, 2:05 pm
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Fee waivers are the only tangible benefit to PM, IMO.
I feel for any hangers on, it's hard to switch loyalty. I'm lucky enough to live in a location where I can fly AS and credit to the MileagePlan.
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Fee waivers are the only tangible benefit to PM, IMO.
I feel for any hangers on, it's hard to switch loyalty. I'm lucky enough to live in a location where I can fly AS and credit to the MileagePlan.
Jan 7, 2009, 2:40 pm
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NWA WP stepped over the brink today, and lots of us know it. We knew change - negative change - was coming, and now it has. The manifestation of the end of WP. It's also a signal to DL PMs that they're hosed too! Wait for the gnashing on this board in about six weeks' time.
On the bright side, I'm feeling free to look around. I'd For years I'd never even thought about defection. And this is happening early enough in the year for all of us to qualify for top tier in our chosen programs without problems. A number of us, including me, had held off big-mileage bookings for 09 until now. I'm very glad I did, because I feel I have the flex to load up in other programs. I'd do AS if I lived in SEA too.
Maybe the strategy is simply to book no more on DL, take my 25k of paid flying for FO - redeem left and right in J on SkyTeam carriers for the coming year - which I've done - and see how it looks at high elite level in another alliance.
Good luck to all WP refugees, whichever airline you choose.
Jan 7, 2009, 2:44 pm
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VP's Non Reving....I would like to see that
Jan 7, 2009, 2:45 pm
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DELTA.COM has a section called BLOG, Under the wing....
They state: "Got an idea for a story? Give us a buzz."
I gave them some fine ideas about angry Platinums and the change/re-deposit fees. Perhaps many others of us can do so.
Edited to add the link as requested:
http://blog.delta.com/contact-us/
And to the right of that page check out CATEGORIES.
I gave them some fine ideas about angry Platinums and the change/re-deposit fees. Perhaps many others of us can do so.
Edited to add the link as requested:
http://blog.delta.com/contact-us/
And to the right of that page check out CATEGORIES.
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Jan 7, 2009, 2:47 pm
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I'm going to go in a different direction here...I bet they are doing this to the NW Plats, knowing they will reverse this in Feb (as they rightfully should) as a way of throwing them a bone.
However, much as I would like this to be the case, I suspect we will continue to be "enhanced". I just wish they would warn us to grab our ankles.
However, much as I would like this to be the case, I suspect we will continue to be "enhanced". I just wish they would warn us to grab our ankles.
Jan 7, 2009, 3:00 pm
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Did you post a comment under one of their propaganda entries? Which one? I can find no new comments on this topic (but there is so little of value on that blog that I am relatively unfamiliar with navigating around it).
Jan 7, 2009, 3:10 pm
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can you give us a link please - thx
Jan 7, 2009, 3:17 pm
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You're right on that. I recall one flight where I eked out the last UG... balance of FC was filled predominantly with DL suits heading somewhere to/from some sort of conference.
IMHO, suits are unlikely to fly under conditions that would give them an appreciation of what air travel is truly like for the rest of us.
My fantasy... the entire DL Board of Directors in window seats in coach, on an RJ from JFK to DFW (1391 miles and 4.5 hrs)... after 3 hr ATC delay on the taxiway in JFK... with a broken toilet... with two crying babies... and no beverages catered for the flight.
And, no, I am not usually vindictive... but I have my limits
IMHO, suits are unlikely to fly under conditions that would give them an appreciation of what air travel is truly like for the rest of us.
My fantasy... the entire DL Board of Directors in window seats in coach, on an RJ from JFK to DFW (1391 miles and 4.5 hrs)... after 3 hr ATC delay on the taxiway in JFK... with a broken toilet... with two crying babies... and no beverages catered for the flight.
And, no, I am not usually vindictive... but I have my limits
Jan 7, 2009, 3:27 pm
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Jan 7, 2009, 3:46 pm
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Yes, and the DL flyers can grumble about the cheap, segment-qualifying NW Plats. In the absence of data proprietary to NW and DL, this argument goes nowhere.