PMU/SWU/Elite ExtraPerks harmonization?
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PMU/SWU/Elite ExtraPerks harmonization?
Is there any plan to harmonize the NW Elite Extra Perks benefits, specifically the system wide upgrade certificates, across DL? I keep hearing about how the programs will be nearly identical in 2009 and people shouldn't care which program they play in, but the #1 reason for me to stay with NW WP for now instead of SkyMiles is Elite Extra Perks.
For those not familiar, at 120k EQM (MQM) we get two SWUs, and an additional two every 40k EQM thereafter. These SWUs allow a one way upgrade from any paid fare class into C (discounted business on NW, but not deeply discounted business - e.g. this bucket is open much more frequently than the buckets used for mileage upgrades). These are valid on any NW flight, and KL flights to Europe and Africa. So, you could for instance book a V ticket from SFO-AMS-CPT and upgrade it into business. Given that they book into C, and can be used from any paid fare class, they're a LOT easier to redeem than DL PMUs. (They're also harder to get as you don't start getting them until 120k EQM).
Currently, these are not valid on DL flights. My SWUs from this year will be valid until 4/2010, but I'm not sure that there will be any NW-operated flights in 4/2010. Will these be made valid on DL flights, or will we be able to somehow convert these into DL certificates if the programs are being brought to parity?
For those not familiar, at 120k EQM (MQM) we get two SWUs, and an additional two every 40k EQM thereafter. These SWUs allow a one way upgrade from any paid fare class into C (discounted business on NW, but not deeply discounted business - e.g. this bucket is open much more frequently than the buckets used for mileage upgrades). These are valid on any NW flight, and KL flights to Europe and Africa. So, you could for instance book a V ticket from SFO-AMS-CPT and upgrade it into business. Given that they book into C, and can be used from any paid fare class, they're a LOT easier to redeem than DL PMUs. (They're also harder to get as you don't start getting them until 120k EQM).
Currently, these are not valid on DL flights. My SWUs from this year will be valid until 4/2010, but I'm not sure that there will be any NW-operated flights in 4/2010. Will these be made valid on DL flights, or will we be able to somehow convert these into DL certificates if the programs are being brought to parity?
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Will be interesting to see what happens. As it stands right now, I'll end the year with 86k MQMs. Not interested in getting some bonus miles for hitting 100k MQMs. However, at 90k, I'd consider doing a MR to get some of the perks - 50% off a SkyChoice award would seem good, as would a Silver giveaway. But 10k bonus miles when I'm netting 200k miles a year - I think I'll pass.
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Will be interesting to see what happens. As it stands right now, I'll end the year with 86k MQMs. Not interested in getting some bonus miles for hitting 100k MQMs. However, at 90k, I'd consider doing a MR to get some of the perks - 50% off a SkyChoice award would seem good, as would a Silver giveaway. But 10k bonus miles when I'm netting 200k miles a year - I think I'll pass.
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I think that if they are saying our program will be identical in 2009, it would only be fair to give NW Platinums 6 PMU usable on both NW and DL, and have DL Platinums PMU be usable on NW flight in addition to DL flights. But Im not holding my breath and looking more closely every day at AA.