New Bonus opportunity
#46
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Atlanta, GA
Programs: DL FO, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 295
From the T and C's:
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
#47
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: West Michigan
Programs: DL, UA, AA, B6, BA (airline status-free leisure traveler), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,963
From the T and C's:
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
#48
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NY
Posts: 76
Only one activity per partner is allowed, only one Buy Miles activity is allowed, only one SkyRewards partner (e.g., SkyMall, LATHER, Organic Bouquet, Vinesse, Great American Days, Samsonite and Java City) activity is allowed, and only one SkyMiles Credit Card activity is allowed.
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#49
Original Member and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA
Programs: DL PM/MM, AA ExPlat, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia, National ECE, Hertz PC
Posts: 16,579
From the T and C's:
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
#50
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chihuahua
Programs: SPG Plat, HHonor Diamond, Hyatt PLAT, Marriott PLat, UA 1K, AA EXP, DL PLAT, BMI Gold, Co PLAT
Posts: 1,962
I already completed 5 for my wife
Clothing
membership reward
Credit card
Insurance
E-reward
total cost 0.4 cents.
Clothing
membership reward
Credit card
Insurance
E-reward
total cost 0.4 cents.
#51
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,720
This is the most confusing part of the T & C's to me. How do they define a "SkyRewards partner?" It's not clear from the listing on their website of Partners. They go through the trouble of making a list of SkyRewards partners, but it is non-exclusive. Specifically, is the SkyMiles shopping the same as SkyMall? It's certainly listed seperately on their website as a partner. If it's not, does this mean that we can make more than one purchase through SkyMiles shopping and have each purchase count as a "unique activity?" Also, is Skymiles Dining a "SkyRewards partner?" Is there anywhere to look for the definition of "SkyRewards partner?"
I think what the subject inarticulate language was attempting to say was that you could have one, and only one, "activity" for each SkyRewards partner.
It can, indeed, be read restricitvely and that of all the examples that they listed, only one of that group would qualify once, but that seems ridiculous.
So, too, is the supposition that an IDINE at each DL accepting restaurant or purchase through the DL mall, would each qualify for one acitivity, almost ad infinitum.
A tougher one is a points to miles transfer from both AMEX and D/C, for example, can you do both to get credit, or will only one of the above be permitted to earn credit. Have no idea, but upon second thought, I believe they are each unique activities.
The only overlap of different activities -- where you are limited to only one -- is earnig DL miles thru either a hotel stay or hotel points transfer activity. In this case, one such activity counts for the other, as well.
Isn't there a DL Insider lurking here, or something?
My take on this promotion:
DL and Airline partner flights -- Do Not Count
Car Rental Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Credit Card Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Any of those listed, count only once for fulfilling this entire class of activity.
Dining, Retail, & Other Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each Category listed and/or each partner so identified specifically within a given category can count, but only once. The rules seem to lump Great American Days and Vinesse and Java City as all counting as satisfying a single activity, but as can seen by the above link, the former is not even within the same category as Java City, and it seems illogical that these two distinct activities would apparently qualify to the exclusion of the other. But who knows?
Hotel Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each Hotel Family Chain Counts As One Activity, BUT, a stay at any of the hotels within a given grouping or family will satisfy the activity for that hotel chain, to the exclusion of any other stays at sister hotels within the family (A DoubleTree stay that earns DL miles will, therefore, exclude counting your earning DL miles at Hilton, Hampton, E/S, etc. as each being an separate activity for the purposes for this promotion; however, you will still earn DL miles for the other stays should you wish.)
Convert Partner Points to Miles -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
This is the tricky one. You can do each of the activities listed and they will each count as a separate activity, EXCEPT, converting hotel points from a specific chain to DL miles and earning DL miles from a specific hotel stay within a chain family. In the above instance, conversion will satisfy the latter, or vice-versa, and you will be limited to only one of these activities as counting as a separte activity for the purposes of the bonus. Remember, however, activities of seaparate hotel family chains are each unique and different from one another and each chain's activity will be considered a separate activity.
Internet & Telephone Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Real Estate & Financial Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Vacation & Cruise Partners --http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Buy Miles --http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...iles/index.jsp
It appears that only buying miles for yourself would satisfy this unique acitivity under this promotion.
I hope this proves helpful to some!
Last edited by NJUPINTHEAIR; Apr 4, 2007 at 10:46 pm
#52
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: New York City
Programs: AA EXP, DL DM, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,128
Why are the T&Cs so UNCLEAR?
This is a GREAT promotion for sure. But, the T&Cs are TERRIBLE. It is totally unclear, for example, if each Skymiles Dining restaurant counts as a separate partner (e.g. Amex vs. Hilton) or if Skymiles Dining counts as one partner no matter how many different restaurants you hit (similar to how Doubletree, Hilton and HGI all count as the same partner)
Same problem with Skymilesshopping? Is each merchant a unique partner or a separate partner?
I'll email them (and expect a response back in about 2-3 weeks as usual) but it would be nice to have this cleared up!!
Same problem with Skymilesshopping? Is each merchant a unique partner or a separate partner?
I'll email them (and expect a response back in about 2-3 weeks as usual) but it would be nice to have this cleared up!!
#53
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chihuahua
Programs: SPG Plat, HHonor Diamond, Hyatt PLAT, Marriott PLat, UA 1K, AA EXP, DL PLAT, BMI Gold, Co PLAT
Posts: 1,962
Thanks a lot!!!
I think what the subject inarticulate language was attempting to say was that you could have one, and only one, "activity" for each SkyRewards partner.
It can, indeed, be read restricitvely and that of all the examples that they listed, only one of that group would qualify once, but that seems ridiculous.
So, too, is the supposition that an IDINE at each DL accepting restaurant or purchase through the DL mall, would each qualify for one acitivity, almost ad infinitum.
A tougher one is a points to miles transfer from both AMEX and D/C, for example, can you do both to get credit, or will only one of the above be permitted to earn credit. Have no idea, but upon second thought, I believe they are each unique activities.
The only overlap of different activities -- where you are limited to only one -- is earnig DL miles thru either a hotel stay or hotel points transfer activity. In this case, one such activity counts for the other, as well.
Isn't there a DL Insider lurking here, or something?
My take on this promotion:
DL and Airline partner flights -- Do Not Count
Car Rental Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Credit Card Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Any of those listed, count only once for fulfilling this entire class of activity.
Dining, Retail, & Other Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each Category listed and/or each partner so identified specifically within a given category can count, but only once. The rules seem to lump Great American Days and Vinesse and Java City as all counting as satisfying a single activity, but as can seen by the above link, the former is not even within the same category as Java City, and it seems illogical that these two distinct activities would apparently qualify to the exclusion of the other. But who knows?
Hotel Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each Hotel Family Chain Counts As One Activity, BUT, a stay at any of the hotels within a given grouping or family will satisfy the activity for that hotel chain, to the exclusion of any other stays at sister hotels within the family (A DoubleTree stay that earns DL miles will, therefore, exclude counting your earning DL miles at Hilton, Hampton, E/S, etc. as each being an separate activity for the purposes for this promotion; however, you will still earn DL miles for the other stays should you wish.)
Convert Partner Points to Miles -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
This is the tricky one. You can do each of the activities listed and they will each count as a separate activity, EXCEPT, converting hotel points from a specific chain to DL miles and earning DL miles from a specific hotel stay within a chain family. In the above instance, conversion will satisfy the latter, or vice-versa, and you will be limited to only one of these activities as counting as a separte activity for the purposes of the bonus. Remember, however, activities of seaparate hotel family chains are each unique and different from one another and each chain's activity will be considered a separate activity.
Internet & Telephone Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Real Estate & Financial Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Vacation & Cruise Partners --http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Buy Miles --http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...iles/index.jsp
It appears that only buying miles for yourself would satisfy this unique acitivity under this promotion.
I hope this proves helpful to some!
It can, indeed, be read restricitvely and that of all the examples that they listed, only one of that group would qualify once, but that seems ridiculous.
So, too, is the supposition that an IDINE at each DL accepting restaurant or purchase through the DL mall, would each qualify for one acitivity, almost ad infinitum.
A tougher one is a points to miles transfer from both AMEX and D/C, for example, can you do both to get credit, or will only one of the above be permitted to earn credit. Have no idea, but upon second thought, I believe they are each unique activities.
The only overlap of different activities -- where you are limited to only one -- is earnig DL miles thru either a hotel stay or hotel points transfer activity. In this case, one such activity counts for the other, as well.
Isn't there a DL Insider lurking here, or something?
My take on this promotion:
DL and Airline partner flights -- Do Not Count
Car Rental Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Credit Card Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Any of those listed, count only once for fulfilling this entire class of activity.
Dining, Retail, & Other Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each Category listed and/or each partner so identified specifically within a given category can count, but only once. The rules seem to lump Great American Days and Vinesse and Java City as all counting as satisfying a single activity, but as can seen by the above link, the former is not even within the same category as Java City, and it seems illogical that these two distinct activities would apparently qualify to the exclusion of the other. But who knows?
Hotel Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each Hotel Family Chain Counts As One Activity, BUT, a stay at any of the hotels within a given grouping or family will satisfy the activity for that hotel chain, to the exclusion of any other stays at sister hotels within the family (A DoubleTree stay that earns DL miles will, therefore, exclude counting your earning DL miles at Hilton, Hampton, E/S, etc. as each being an separate activity for the purposes for this promotion; however, you will still earn DL miles for the other stays should you wish.)
Convert Partner Points to Miles -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
This is the tricky one. You can do each of the activities listed and they will each count as a separate activity, EXCEPT, converting hotel points from a specific chain to DL miles and earning DL miles from a specific hotel stay within a chain family. In the above instance, conversion will satisfy the latter, or vice-versa, and you will be limited to only one of these activities as counting as a separte activity for the purposes of the bonus. Remember, however, activities of seaparate hotel family chains are each unique and different from one another and each chain's activity will be considered a separate activity.
Internet & Telephone Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Real Estate & Financial Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Vacation & Cruise Partners --http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each would count as a uinque and separate activity.
Buy Miles --http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...iles/index.jsp
It appears that only buying miles for yourself would satisfy this unique acitivity under this promotion.
I hope this proves helpful to some!
#55
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: ATL
Programs: DL SkyMiles PM/2MM, AA Plat, IC Diam. Amb., Peninsula regular, amanjunkie
Posts: 5,848
I think what the subject inarticulate language was attempting to say was that you could have one, and only one, "activity" for each SkyRewards partner.
It can, indeed, be read restricitvely and that of all the examples that they listed, only one of that group would qualify once, but that seems ridiculous.
It can, indeed, be read restricitvely and that of all the examples that they listed, only one of that group would qualify once, but that seems ridiculous.
Applying the same reasoning to SkyMiles Dining and SkyMilesShopping, I think patronizing any participant in either Dining or Shopping will count, but you'll only get one qualifying activity at Dining or Shopping, respectively, no matter how many different dines you have at different restaurants and no matter how many different orders you place with participants in shopping.
WHERE IS the SkyMiles Lurker? The T&C of this promotion is in GREAT need of clarification.
#56
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: About 45 miles NW of MCO
Programs: Acapulco - Gold, Panama - Red, Timothy Leary 8 Mile High Club
Posts: 29,256
0.4 cents? How are you gonna pay that one? And how did you buy clothing for your wife (or dry clean it) for less than a penny. Mrs BamaVol's a smart shopper, but she's never come close to that feat.
#57
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,904
Dining, Retail, & Other Partners -- http://www.delta.com/skymiles/ways_t...ners/index.jsp
Each Category listed and/or each partner so identified specifically within a given category can count, but only once. The rules seem to lump Great American Days and Vinesse and Java City as all counting as satisfying a single activity, but as can seen by the above link, the former is not even within the same category as Java City, and it seems illogical that these two distinct activities would apparently qualify to the exclusion of the other. But who knows?
Each Category listed and/or each partner so identified specifically within a given category can count, but only once. The rules seem to lump Great American Days and Vinesse and Java City as all counting as satisfying a single activity, but as can seen by the above link, the former is not even within the same category as Java City, and it seems illogical that these two distinct activities would apparently qualify to the exclusion of the other. But who knows?
I'm writing to Delta for an explanation, but don't count on any response to be binding. I always go by the strictest reading of a promo. Have you ever done a promo that turned out to be better than you expected?
#58
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA
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Posts: 16,579
I think he meant .40 dollars (the AMEX Membership Rewards excise tax fee).
#59
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,720
I think you may be correct. That would make the most sense. What the T&C may be trying to say is that patronizing a given retail partner counts but only counts once, regardless of how many times you buy. That is, place ten orders with Lather, it counts as one qualifying activity. Place ten orders with JavaCity, it counts as one qualifying activity, even if you'd already had a qualifying activity with Lather.
Applying the same reasoning to SkyMiles Dining and SkyMilesShopping, I think patronizing any participant in either Dining or Shopping will count, but you'll only get one qualifying activity at Dining or Shopping, respectively, no matter how many different dines you have at different restaurants and no matter how many different orders you place with participants in shopping.
WHERE IS the SkyMiles Lurker? The T&C of this promotion is in GREAT need of clarification.
Applying the same reasoning to SkyMiles Dining and SkyMilesShopping, I think patronizing any participant in either Dining or Shopping will count, but you'll only get one qualifying activity at Dining or Shopping, respectively, no matter how many different dines you have at different restaurants and no matter how many different orders you place with participants in shopping.
WHERE IS the SkyMiles Lurker? The T&C of this promotion is in GREAT need of clarification.
The only problem is that we do not know for sure. My surmises are only a guide for anyone who wishes to use them.
And, where is the Delta SkyMiles Lurker?
#60
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Last edited by NJUPINTHEAIR; Apr 5, 2007 at 11:16 pm