Air France Sucks
Mar 31, 2005, 7:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
Speaking for myself, I did not intervene in this thread because — quite frankly, I don’t know how to say this without risking sounding corny or condescending, but — I am quite proud of the Delta forum FlyerTalk members. This thread, complete with its “off-color” title, started off on a questionable nature and could have easily degenerated into a volatile thread. Instead, it recovered very nicely into a thoughtful, civil discussion concerning the experiences — positive and negative — of Delta forum FlyerTalk members using Air France.
In other words, you as FlyerTalk members moderated this thread and did not need our intervention after all. To me, that speaks volumes.
In other words, you as FlyerTalk members moderated this thread and did not need our intervention after all. To me, that speaks volumes.
Mar 31, 2005, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by knit-in
I will admit that I haven't flown AF much-- three segments, and even less on Intl DL-- once, but have had nothing but positive to say for AF. DL on the other hand was a nightmare (JFK-CDG on 777).
Mar 31, 2005, 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Rssrsvp
Out of curiousity, were you in B/E or Y for this flight on a DL 777? Also, when did you take this trip?
Mar 31, 2005, 9:52 pm
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Originally Posted by knit-in
It was certainly Coach in (I think since it's been a while) November of 2000.
Mar 31, 2005, 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
It is true — speaking French does go a long way
.If your statement is true, how come when I made the following request to an Air France FA, I was given a very cold shoulder in return??
¿Quisiera una botella de su vino rojo más fino, por favor??
Mar 31, 2005, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Cholula
Hey, wait just a minute here.... .
If your statement is true, how come when I made the following request to an Air France FA, I was given a very cold shoulder in return??
¿Quisiera una botella de su vino rojo más fino, por favor??
.If your statement is true, how come when I made the following request to an Air France FA, I was given a very cold shoulder in return??
¿Quisiera una botella de su vino rojo más fino, por favor??
Quisiera una botella de su vino rojo más fino - por favor.
¿Qué coño te pasa, Cholula?
Apr 1, 2005, 5:12 am
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Travelnutz,
I think your last post also says a lot, after all, all that counts is if your business is making money ( and sticking to the laws one should add quickly )
Seeing AF being profitable right now and DL in dire straits, I would not use the terms you do.
But yes France has a social system that is halfway okay, not comparable to Germany or Scandinavia though and yes AF recieved more than $ 4 billion of government subsidies in the early 1990`s and yes unions have a lot of power there, but a communist country looks a little bit different I think...
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I think your last post also says a lot, after all, all that counts is if your business is making money ( and sticking to the laws one should add quickly )
Seeing AF being profitable right now and DL in dire straits, I would not use the terms you do.
But yes France has a social system that is halfway okay, not comparable to Germany or Scandinavia though and yes AF recieved more than $ 4 billion of government subsidies in the early 1990`s and yes unions have a lot of power there, but a communist country looks a little bit different I think...
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Apr 1, 2005, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Cholula
Hey, wait just a minute here.... .
If your statement is true, how come when I made the following request to an Air France FA, I was given a very cold shoulder in return??
¿Quisiera una botella de su vino rojo más fino, por favor??
.If your statement is true, how come when I made the following request to an Air France FA, I was given a very cold shoulder in return??
¿Quisiera una botella de su vino rojo más fino, por favor??
That just reinforces the world's view of Americans as being ignorant, arrogant louts. Most Americans seem to think that, if someone doesn't speak English, they can either YELL AT THEM, or babble at them in whatever non-English language they happen to speak. Talk about insulting!
Apr 1, 2005, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by jimrpa
...That just reinforces the world's view of Americans as being ignorant, arrogant louts. Most Americans seem to think that, if someone doesn't speak English, they can either YELL AT THEM, or babble at them in whatever non-English language they happen to speak. Talk about insulting!
Apr 1, 2005, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by jimrpa
Um, because you made the request in SPANISH, not French?
Apr 1, 2005, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy
Dude, Cholula was making a joke. Chill.
At least someone can decipher my jokes around here......
Apr 1, 2005, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by JRF
Sort of correct, in France, the louder you yell, the meaner and nastier you are, the more you are respected. .
Apr 1, 2005, 3:43 pm
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Yep
Originally Posted by Rssrsvp
It was probably the 2-5-2 seating configuration. If so, and if I was stuck somewhere in the middle of those 5 seats, I would have hated it also.
Have they changed configuration since? I have a trip to DEL coming up in May.
Apr 1, 2005, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by JRF
Sort of correct, in France, the louder you yell, the meaner and nastier you are, the more you are respected. In most other countries this is not true. So, don't quite be so fast to jump on the original poster.
I almost surely haven't spent as much time in France as a Flying Colonel, but the half dozen times I've actually stayed in France as well as the number of additional times I've transited through there, this absolutely, positively has not been my experience. The Europeans with whom I have the most experience -- the Brits, French, Italians, Spaniards -- seem NOT to respond to yelling or to nastiness, at least from my observation of other Americans trying that technique.
I think this post is the one that least comports with my personal experience since I've been reading FlyerTalk, and it's not surprising that a poster like JOUY would respond with an eyeroll, IMHO. I realize that others' experiences might be quite different.
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Apr 1, 2005, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by JRF
Sort of correct, in France, the louder you yell, the meaner and nastier you are, the more you are respected. In most other countries this is not true. So, don't quite be so fast to jump on the original poster.
I see people doing that sometimes in CDG. It seems to get them a lot less than being calm and polite, but each to his or her own! Of course while the Parisian spars with the loud mouth American the rest of us can grab the last flight on the flight they are arguing over.
Remember. Paris isn't France.
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