New DL Double or Triple QM Promo in the works? AA fires first shot
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I enjoyed your post, mooper! I would just like to point out that things are in a pretty sad state when Delta Air Lines makes more money from CCs/Hotels/etc than it does from flying. If that is the case, perhaps they should stop making seats available for "revenue ($$$)" tickets and instead only allow ticket purchases with skymiles.
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I enjoyed your post, mooper! I would just like to point out that things are in a pretty sad state when Delta Air Lines makes more money from CCs/Hotels/etc than it does from flying. If that is the case, perhaps they should stop making seats available for "revenue ($$$)" tickets and instead only allow ticket purchases with skymiles.
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No. There is pretty much no evidence that the number of elites will increase. Given the state of the economy and the travel industry, I am willing to wager that it won't.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
No US airline has devalued the FF mileage value proposition as much and for as many customers as DL management has done since the start of last year.
People need to learn to adapt to the currency fluctuation that is skymiles.
"No US airline has devalued the FF mileage value proposition as much and for as many customers as DL management has done since the start of last year."
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Still no news from DL?
Still no news from DL?
#112
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I think this argument falls down when there are repeated 2X offers for extended periods of time. You end up with someone who is legitimately a gold level flyer (which is a fair amount of travel) getting DM status. Now the not-so-infrequent traveler is competing fairly frequently with the VFF.
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Last time -- just earlier this year -- when there was AA's double status miles promotion, DL was nowhere close to being quick to respond to the launch of AA's double status miles promotion; and even then DL only went on to have a promotion that was useful to a small minority of ticket purchasers .... principally just those buying the most expensive fares.
#114
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Personally, I'd rather not see another double MQM promo and would like to see MQMs go back to being earned purely BIS. Fat chance of that happening...
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AA's press release was at 11am yesterday. I'm sure DL needs to weigh cost / benefit of matching vs not-matching, particularly as it relates to roll-over / the new DM level, retroactive bookings, gift MQMs etc etc. UA does not have all of these additional complications, and is on deaths door as it is.
Personally, I'd rather not see another double MQM promo and would like to see MQMs go back to being earned purely BIS. Fat chance of that happening...
Personally, I'd rather not see another double MQM promo and would like to see MQMs go back to being earned purely BIS. Fat chance of that happening...
#116
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AA's press release was at 11am yesterday. I'm sure DL needs to weigh cost / benefit of matching vs not-matching, particularly as it relates to roll-over / the new DM level, retroactive bookings, gift MQMs etc etc. UA does not have all of these additional complications, and is on deaths door as it is.
Personally, I'd rather not see another double MQM promo and would like to see MQMs go back to being earned purely BIS. Fat chance of that happening...
Personally, I'd rather not see another double MQM promo and would like to see MQMs go back to being earned purely BIS. Fat chance of that happening...
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I enjoyed your post, mooper! I would just like to point out that things are in a pretty sad state when Delta Air Lines makes more money from CCs/Hotels/etc than it does from flying. If that is the case, perhaps they should stop making seats available for "revenue ($$$)" tickets and instead only allow ticket purchases with skymiles.
#118
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Wow, many years ago, I started a thread which simply asked why was it necessary to actually fly the routes on a mileage run... why couldn't one simply declare the ticket value null and earn the MQMs... allowing DL to pocket the money paid for the ticket and still fill the empty seat, if there was a demand for it. Essentially, this would allow one to buy the status level they desired and not have to actually fly the BIS miles. This concept was so contrary to what everyone had grown to believe that it was rather angrily considered to be absurd by many who responded.
So where are we today? Double MQM promotions, another possible 30K MQMs from your Reserve card.... so once again, why does one actually have to fly the MR?
So where are we today? Double MQM promotions, another possible 30K MQMs from your Reserve card.... so once again, why does one actually have to fly the MR?
#119
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WInstead of Multiple MQM's GAme Why Not
super discount using SkyMiles. Instead of the usuall 40000 for round trip why not 20000 with out the rip off restrictions. That is a different twist to a old ball game of matching the competitor.
#120
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Recently, I was speaking with a number of co-workers; all of us fly weekly for business. Among my co-workers are a mix of CO (Plat), DL (Plat) and United (1K) flyers. I was amazed that most of them paid little attention to any of their airlines promotions. Certainly, they all strived to maintain their top teir status for the in-air perks and dedicated customer support. However, beyond that, there was little thought or concern for any other elements of their status, including redemption of miles, what other airlines offered, or how irrops were handled. Using this unscientific group, it leads me to believe that it is a very small population of VFF that actually respond to these promotions beyond 10 or 20K worth of miles. I like the promotions only because I accumulate more MQMs on my business travel; but, there is no way I would pay for extra, unnecessary flights just to earn more MQMs. In fact, given the economy over the past year, I find it difficult to believe that there are people who believe it is money well spent to respond to these promotions. But, I am amazed at human behavior (mostly my own) everyday.