They are offering plenty of things (as I listed in my previous post) that set them apart from the rest. If there were SWUs they would definitely be best in class. For some, they already are.

I am sorry but I do think the perks of the new Diamond level are quite nice and for my pattern of travel it will actually make Delta the best in its class for me.

That being said, I did write to DL and let them know of which aspects of this program I appreciated more and yes, I did give them the feedback I felt would improve the program and make it the best program for the vast majority of people.

I asked this:

"Which item in my quoted post is not true? So far you haven't pointed to a single error in my post above."

Given what you posted above, it's clear that you are not able to demonstrate one thing that was untrue in the relevant post of mine which you quoted earlier, so who knows why you proclaimed something as not true when you cannot demonstrate it to be false.

About the rest of the benefits, if they make you happy, then great for you. For most customers, however, this 2010 Medallion Program is mostly nothing but DL management charlatans playing the usual DL charlatan shell game of stripping something from the many only to give back the same or less to fewer customers than before.

Gotta love that attitude of yours! :rolleyes:

It rocks, doesn't it?? :cool:

And NW didn't have a fare class requirement, which I believe Delta does. You can't upgrade a companion on LUT fares with DL I believe. NW didn't matter, as long as it wasn't an award ticket. Another un-enhancement.

Dude, words can't describe how much it does! :p:D

Maybe the "most customers" that this post refers to are those that businesses are realizing that, for one reason or another, are not profitable for them and not worth chasing and courting.

Possibly this poster can look at the new protocol and devise a plan that will enable him to fit into the group of customers that does get the "give back."

You can't possibly have polled enough DL customers to factually make this claim. This is your opinion, and I am sure it is shared by some who might actually know what a charlatan is; but, I'm not buying the "most" claim without some polling data.

There's "statistics" and "d!!n statistics".

Oh, wait, there's no statistics at all, sorry, my bad.

"most of the people who post" does not equal "most people on FT", and surely does not equal "most Delta Medallions". But who wants to let semantics get in the way?

Correct, no companion upgrades on LUT with DL. So nothing has changed with the 2010 program. How is this an un-enhancement from 2009 to 2010?

May I ask why not rollover Segments? I'm on track to qualify for silver with ~36 segments and 20,000 EQMs.

On what basis do you speak for "most customers"?

Lets actually compare programs:

Diamond = 125% Mileage Bonus
AA EP = 100%

Diamond = Unlimited Domestic Upgrades
AA EP = Not sure. They offer them, but not with the frequency of Delta

Diamond = International Upgrade Cert with Highest Published Fare Class
AA EP = International Upgrade Cert (One Class) with Most Published Fares

Diamond = Domestic Lounge Membership with free booze
AA EP = Discounted Domestic Lounge Membership ($300 or 50,000 Miles) you pay for drinks

I flew international once this year, with my wife. Company ponied up for M fare, and I ponied up 150,000 miles and a certificate to put us both in BE. I also have a plus 85% UG rate with Delta this year, with lots of flying through ATL, and I have already passed the Diamond threshold. For my money, it seems that the switch to AA would be an expensive error...

+1. I had thought about the move, but things are not that bad at DL. I would have preferred lower fare class usage of SWUs but it is not the deal breaker... I would think that if DL really wanted to appeal to the high milage fliers, then they would just give space avail. u/g on international flights day of departure. Why let these seats go out empty???

Is the Diamond Level all that it is cracked up to be? Not really with all the hype about it, but I haven't seen much more from other ainy other domestic airline program. UA does not really entice me with the whole restriction of upgrades, AA is fair, but the lounge access and overall network does not serve my purposes. I cannot even begin to fly enough on US to reach CP - I would have to cut myself first....

What is left? CO.. While not a bad option, the milage earning is a little limited on lower fares. It also is not as good for me, who's company policy makes me book through Egencia.

so i am left with NW/DL. I do not think this program is horrible. I would like to see a MC/Visa option rather than, or at least in addition to the Amex.

Now the question is.. go ahead and get diamond, or just roll over the miles to next year... I am about 5000 short right now..:confused:

The NW Phantom Upgrade program.
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