UA has a form letter they send out along with a payment demand to those who do chronic hidden city ticketing.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28912152-post224.htmlhttps://nomascoach.boardingarea.com/...h-collections/I believe there have been a few of stories about AA doing it as well. Have not heard of any stories involving DL demanding payment. |
Originally Posted by flyerCO
(Post 31325280)
I understand this. I was replying to what poster before me posted.
Also DL wont be flying the bag anywhere even for money after it arrives at final destination. They dont allow you to simply ship a bag as the bag is now cargo, not a passenger's bag. For that you must use UPS/FEDEX/USPS/etc... |
Originally Posted by mnbp
(Post 31325299)
The OP of this thread's "friend" is a 6-8 times/year hidden city user. As such, certainly they know not to check a bag.
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Originally Posted by mnbp
(Post 31325299)
The OP of this thread's "friend" is a 6-8 times/year hidden city user. As such, certainly they know not to check a bag.
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The presumption that everyone who gets caught out in a fraud by an air carrier comes to FT to moan about it is misplaced. My guess is that the vast majority of people who do get bagged don't brag about it. The few who have posted here recently have been UA & AA experiences (in the US).
To me, the easiest approach is not to sue the passenger, but presuming that they have status or a significant balance in their FFP, just close it out. That may sting more than writing a check. |
Originally Posted by remyontheroad
(Post 31324941)
Never heard a peep, but just starting to wonder if when it actually catches up?
If you fly hidden city without FFP involvement, the chance is not only DL, but most airlines won't lay a finger on you. While each airlines has massive data, it just takes too many works to sort out who's who. In many cases, it is not worth spending the resources to go after these people. However, if you use FFP in anyway with hidden city, things will be easier for airlines, as they can trace back your flight history. Lawsuit or not, the very first thing the airlines can do is to revoke the membership and forfeit all miles/points. Of course, people may say this may not even occur. But based on the news, airlines had sued. Airlines had revoked membership before. Is it a risk you are willing to take? Not me for sure. My 2 cents. |
Bingo.
And also how to not get in a situation where forced to gate check.
Originally Posted by mnbp
(Post 31325299)
The OP of this thread's "friend" is a 6-8 times/year hidden city user. As such, certainly they know not to check a bag.
Originally Posted by xliioper
(Post 31325284)
UA has a form letter they send out along with a payment demand to those who do chronic hidden city ticketing.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28912152-post224.htmlhttps://nomascoach.boardingarea.com/...h-collections/I believe there have been a few of stories about AA doing it as well. Have not heard of any stories involving DL demanding payment.
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 31325363)
The presumption that everyone who gets caught out in a fraud by an air carrier comes to FT to moan about it is misplaced. My guess is that the vast majority of people who do get bagged don't brag about it. The few who have posted here recently have been UA & AA experiences (in the US).
To me, the easiest approach is not to sue the passenger, but presuming that they have status or a significant balance in their FFP, just close it out. That may sting more than writing a check.
Originally Posted by garykung
(Post 31325373)
It really depends on who you are.
If you fly hidden city without FFP involvement, the chance is not only DL, but most airlines won't lay a finger on you. While each airlines has massive data, it just takes too many works to sort out who's who. In many cases, it is not worth spending the resources to go after these people. However, if you use FFP in anyway with hidden city, things will be easier for airlines, as they can trace back your flight history. Lawsuit or not, the very first thing the airlines can do is to revoke the membership and forfeit all miles/points. Of course, people may say this may not even occur. But based on the news, airlines had sued. Airlines had revoked membership before. Is it a risk you are willing to take? Not me for sure. My 2 cents. |
"Asking for a friend..." 😏 |
Avoiding gate checking is easy. Don’t fly RJ, don’t fly Basic Economy, and board with your zone (assuming Zone Sky or Zone 1) rather than dawdling in the Sky Club. |
Originally Posted by nystateofmind
(Post 31326096)
Avoiding gate checking is easy. Don’t fly RJ, don’t fly Basic Economy, and board with your zone (assuming Zone Sky or Zone 1) rather than dawdling in the Sky Club. |
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Originally Posted by nystateofmind
(Post 31326096)
Avoiding gate checking is easy. Don’t fly RJ, don’t fly Basic Economy, and board with your zone (assuming Zone Sky or Zone 1) rather than dawdling in the Sky Club.
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BA charged a travel agent for this when passengers the TA booked dropped the last leg of a trip a little too often.
No reports of any passengers being charged or having their BAEC accounts closed. That's not to say no one has just no one came to flyer talk to complain about it / ask for advice |
Originally Posted by sfgiants13
(Post 31325019)
If you end up gate checking your bag youll have a problem. I’ve seen many agents catch people that way and then you’ll be stuck possibly with a change fee and fare difference before they’ll reunite you with your bag. |
Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
(Post 31325076)
Checked bag will go through to the connecting city and you will have to pay DL to fly it back to the hidden city. I thought they are required to unload the bag if you don't show for a flight. That's the law in many countries. In other words, bags arrives where you arrive. |
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