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Delta adds Boston to Honolulu, more frequencies on existing HI routes

Delta adds Boston to Honolulu, more frequencies on existing HI routes

Old Feb 16, 2024, 11:22 am
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Delta adds Boston to Honolulu, more frequencies on existing HI routes

This is great to see. Shame itís a 767-300 from Boston, but love to see Delta continuing to invest in Hawaii.

https://news.delta.com/delta-deepens-leisure-footprint-new-routes-hawaii-and-miami
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 11:57 am
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Long flight for a 767 and agree its a shame an 11hr+ flight is on a 767 with the old cabins and seats, and small screens for the IFE.
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan
Long flight for a 767 and agree its a shame an 11hr+ flight is on a 767 with the old cabins and seats, and small screens for the IFE.
I disagree - I think for such a long flight having 2-3-2 in the back is much more ideal, especially for couples who may be traveling together. That's the vast majority of people who would be traveling this route anyways, not business travelers. The back has the larger IFE if I'm remembering correctly.
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Pianoman109876
I disagree - I think for such a long flight having 2-3-2 in the back is much more ideal, especially for couples who may be traveling together. That's the vast majority of people who would be traveling this route anyways, not business travelers. The back has the larger IFE if I'm remembering correctly.
You make a fair point too. I think it just depends on whether you are flying Delta One or Main Cabin. An Airbus A330 would be good for couples in economy as well with a 2-4-2 config. One benefit as a New York-based flyer - this is one more 767-300ER that won't be flying out of JFK!
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 2:18 pm
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Nice to see but I still donít understand why DL wonít focus more on the outer HI islands like KOA or LIH. DL is the only carrier that doesnít offer daytime/non-red eye options from either of those destinations back to the mainland. Youíd think a morning outbound/midday return to LAX or SEA from KOA would work but apparently not. I believe DL use to fly SLC-KOA 10+ years ago but that hasnít returned either.
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 2:47 pm
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Have they posted any of the flight times yet for these flights? I was curious what the times were for the 2nd nonstop out of SLC. Were they going to mirror the new Hawaiian nonstop that starts in May? While more choice of times is great, I do hope SLC doesn't lose the widebody currently on that option.
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 3:21 pm
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Interesting choice for so much HNL growth. How many tourists going to HNL vs neighbor islands these days? Especially given the potential impact of an AS/HA tie up on HNL - OGG/LIH/KOA flights
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Lyaec350
Interesting choice for so much HNL growth. How many tourists going to HNL vs neighbor islands these days? Especially given the potential impact of an AS/HA tie up on HNL - OGG/LIH/KOA flights
HNL/OGG are the main destinations. Unless OGG has fully recovered, HNL I suspect is where the money is.

HA/AS will have to continue codeshares on intera-island flights. No way DOT approves merger otherwise.
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Lyaec350
Interesting choice for so much HNL growth. How many tourists going to HNL vs neighbor islands these days? Especially given the potential impact of an AS/HA tie up on HNL - OGG/LIH/KOA flights
Hawaiian currently flies BOSHNL and from what I am seeing it's about $220OW so I can't imagine DL commanding a premium in this market with dilutive yields that can be flowed over different carrier hubs.
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
HNL/OGG are the main destinations. Unless OGG has fully recovered, HNL I suspect is where the money is.
While certainly OGG caters to an affluent crowd, Maui is fairly out of reach price-wise for many Americans. Not that Oahu isn't too but much less so. This is before or after recovery.
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 7:55 pm
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I wonder what the RUC availability for these flights will be.
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Smaug
I wonder what the RUC availability for these flights will be.
If it was like JFK-HNL, there may be a period where the algorithm learns the buying and travel patterns. I remember being very surprised to be able to clear directly into D1 via RUCs on the route with one way clearing into the very last open seat at the time and the other way having 3 seats open (IME on this route they block 3 seats up to gate control and use 1 for the pilot rest)
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Old Feb 16, 2024, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by brazzleman
Have they posted any of the flight times yet for these flights? I was curious what the times were for the 2nd nonstop out of SLC. Were they going to mirror the new Hawaiian nonstop that starts in May? While more choice of times is great, I do hope SLC doesn't lose the widebody currently on that option.
Both SLC-HNL flights are currently scheduled to be 763s. The new flight is an afternoon departure out of SLC and an early evening return out of HNL.
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Old Feb 17, 2024, 12:28 am
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Thatís a surprising route. HAs service is still kind of newish and this is a lot of seat-add on the non-stop. Unless DL is heavily banking on connecting traffic, this route doesnít make a lot of sense. Perhaps it will become more clear once the flight times are out, with a mid-day BOS departure and a true red-eye coming back this could be an attractive option I guess. I wonder if HNL-Asia is coming - that would then be quite interesting.
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Old Feb 17, 2024, 1:02 am
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Originally Posted by cfischer
Thatís a surprising route. HAs service is still kind of newish and this is a lot of seat-add on the non-stop. Unless DL is heavily banking on connecting traffic, this route doesnít make a lot of sense. Perhaps it will become more clear once the flight times are out, with a mid-day BOS departure and a true red-eye coming back this could be an attractive option I guess. I wonder if HNL-Asia is coming - that would then be quite interesting.
DL has a daily HND-HNL flight
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