Goodbye plastic cups
#1
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Goodbye plastic cups
Delta is phasing out plastic cups in favor of new paper cups. Same cups for all drinks, hot and cold. Trial underway with full rollout in 2024.
https://news.delta.com/sustainable-science-how-delta-eliminating-7m-pounds-single-use-plastic-board-new-paper-cups
https://news.delta.com/sustainable-science-how-delta-eliminating-7m-pounds-single-use-plastic-board-new-paper-cups
#2
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Got the cups on a flight last week...No excuses now for nursing your drinks! Bottoms up!
#3
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I’ve had the paper cups on AS and while I don’t love them, I’m okay with this. In Y, because they are always collecting trash, it’s shocking how often the plastic cups really are only used once before being disposed of.
#4
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Paper is both renewable and biodegradable. I'm in favor.
#5
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1. "Paper" cups have a pfas or other similar plastic liner.
2. Plastic cups can be easily recycled especially from a controlled environment like an airplane.
3. If you incinerate plastic cups in a Waste to Energy facility like they do in most of northern Europe, Scandanavia, Japan and Korea, the carbon footprint of plastic cups is less than that of paper.
The switch to paper cups is just virtue signalling and only works because they have dumb customers.
2. Plastic cups can be easily recycled especially from a controlled environment like an airplane.
3. If you incinerate plastic cups in a Waste to Energy facility like they do in most of northern Europe, Scandanavia, Japan and Korea, the carbon footprint of plastic cups is less than that of paper.
The switch to paper cups is just virtue signalling and only works because they have dumb customers.
#6
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Wow, making lots of assumptions there...bully for all those smarter countries that are so smarter than us rubes!
#7
Join Date: Dec 2023
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I support Delta’s decision to switch to paper cups. I think it’s a great initiative to reduce plastic waste and environmental impact.
#9
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1. "Paper" cups have a pfas or other similar plastic liner.
2. Plastic cups can be easily recycled especially from a controlled environment like an airplane.
3. If you incinerate plastic cups in a Waste to Energy facility like they do in most of northern Europe, Scandanavia, Japan and Korea, the carbon footprint of plastic cups is less than that of paper.
The switch to paper cups is just virtue signalling and only works because they have dumb customers.
2. Plastic cups can be easily recycled especially from a controlled environment like an airplane.
3. If you incinerate plastic cups in a Waste to Energy facility like they do in most of northern Europe, Scandanavia, Japan and Korea, the carbon footprint of plastic cups is less than that of paper.
The switch to paper cups is just virtue signalling and only works because they have dumb customers.
If you think FAs and cleaners reliably sort plastic cups for proper recycling, I have a property to sell you in beautiful Prudhoe Bay. Even if plastic cups do make it to "recycling," they are not truly recycled into new cups. Paper can really be recycled into new paper. Reality is most of these cups are going to end up in landfills and I'd rather have them be compostable paper than plastic.
Last edited by DLASflyer; Dec 19, 2023 at 7:11 am
#10
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I'd say good, unless you order a cocktail. Something about sipping a beer, wine, or whiskey & Coke out of a paper cup I find cheap and unappealing.
For alcohol, they should serve beer from the can, and wine/cocktails in a glass like in F or washable plastic cup. All other bevs in paper fine with me. This should work with the initiative of eliminating single-use plastics.
Anecdotally, I've had countless experiences when I've ordered a coffee with cream and I get a coffee cup, and a second plastic cup containing 1-2 of those little creamer tubes, napkin and stir-stick. Sometimes, 2 (two!) plastic cups containing the coffee accessories. What an absolute waste of materials and money with a significant environmental impact. Stop that, Delta. Just hand us the stuff and we can manage it from there.
For alcohol, they should serve beer from the can, and wine/cocktails in a glass like in F or washable plastic cup. All other bevs in paper fine with me. This should work with the initiative of eliminating single-use plastics.
Anecdotally, I've had countless experiences when I've ordered a coffee with cream and I get a coffee cup, and a second plastic cup containing 1-2 of those little creamer tubes, napkin and stir-stick. Sometimes, 2 (two!) plastic cups containing the coffee accessories. What an absolute waste of materials and money with a significant environmental impact. Stop that, Delta. Just hand us the stuff and we can manage it from there.
#11
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I recall Delta was recently testing more durable reusable plastic cups; I guess this means that test didn’t work out for some reason or another.
#12
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Wouldn't paper cups quickly go to mush with ice inside it?
#14
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Can't be worse than those wooden utensils that stick to your lips lol. I'm game to give it a go...