Why give business to someone you can not trust?
Sep 17, 2023, 7:08 am
#1
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Why give business to someone you can not trust?
Question intended to be “Why give business to someone you can not trust?”
Deval airlines aka Delta is the most untrustworthy airline ever!
Deval airlines aka Delta is the most untrustworthy airline ever!
Last edited by shoodawg; Sep 17, 2023 at 7:35 am Reason: Fix title
Sep 17, 2023, 8:12 am
#2
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The big thing I trust ANY airline to do is get me safely from Point A to Point B. Since so far my takeoffs and landings on Delta are equal I am ok. Everything else is just the "window dressing' imho
And really if you think this is the "most untrustworthy ever" you might do some research.... I would think that an airline taking off with passengers knowing that when they land bankruptcy will be in place and there will not be flights home would rank higher. Or anything Spirit does.... LOL!
And really if you think this is the "most untrustworthy ever" you might do some research.... I would think that an airline taking off with passengers knowing that when they land bankruptcy will be in place and there will not be flights home would rank higher. Or anything Spirit does.... LOL!
Sep 17, 2023, 12:24 pm
#4
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"Program Changes and Termination Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. "
Your options are two. Stay with Delta. Or don't - but your misguided "trust" in Delta is self-inflicted.
Last edited by IAH-OIL-TRASH; Sep 17, 2023 at 12:34 pm
Sep 17, 2023, 1:48 pm
#5
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Maybe you're confusing unrealistic expectations with any actual promises? If you trust any airline not to change aspects of their frequent flyer program, you're living in a different world. You acknowledge this as part of your SkyMiles membership. Read it. Understand it:
"Program Changes and Termination Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. "
Your options are two. Stay with Delta. Or don't - but your misguided "trust" in Delta is self-inflicted.
"Program Changes and Termination Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. "
Your options are two. Stay with Delta. Or don't - but your misguided "trust" in Delta is self-inflicted.
Sep 17, 2023, 2:02 pm
#6
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Unlike some other posters above, I do think it is fair to say that Delta is clearly untrustworthy when it comes to FFP. I'm jusy surprised that you only brought it up now. It has been blatantly obvious to me since 2012 which is when I stopped flying Delta.
Sep 17, 2023, 2:08 pm
#7
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So you haven't flown DL is 11 years and still feel the need to comment on all of this without any elaboration or examples?
Sep 17, 2023, 2:10 pm
#8
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Again, how is it "untrusty"??? They tell you they have the right to change the program and when they do, they actually give advance notice. Per their terms, they don't even have to do that. What specifically has DL done that contradicts the terms you agreed to???
Sep 17, 2023, 2:39 pm
#9
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Maybe you're confusing unrealistic expectations with any actual promises? If you trust any airline not to change aspects of their frequent flyer program, you're living in a different world. You acknowledge this as part of your SkyMiles membership. Read it. Understand it:
"Program Changes and Termination Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. "
Your options are two. Stay with Delta. Or don't - but your misguided "trust" in Delta is self-inflicted.
"Program Changes and Termination Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. "
Your options are two. Stay with Delta. Or don't - but your misguided "trust" in Delta is self-inflicted.
Sep 17, 2023, 2:49 pm
#10
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I don’t like the changes either. But “untrustworthy?” Get a grip, or just go fly UA or AA and see how “trustworthy” they are.
Sep 17, 2023, 2:50 pm
#11
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It's essential to take a step back and gain some perspective. Businesses are perpetually evolving, tweaking their offerings to meet various demands. If you are not satisfied with what a particular business provides, the solution is simple: explore other options.
The chorus of complaints and grievances, especially from mature individuals who themselves at some point in their careers, may have been involved in implementing changes for their companies that might have irked their customer bases, comes across as rather childish and unbecoming of adults.
Vote with your pocket.
Sep 17, 2023, 3:08 pm
#12
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This has been happening here for years. I still think that the UA/CO merger was the worst of it, though these changes are starting to approach that.
Sep 17, 2023, 3:23 pm
#13
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Does everyone need to start their own thread to make the same complaints?
You've made your oh-so-clever comments about "Deval airlines" in multiple threads, ironically "devaluing" the FT Delta forum.
You've made your oh-so-clever comments about "Deval airlines" in multiple threads, ironically "devaluing" the FT Delta forum.
Sep 17, 2023, 3:30 pm
#14
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Delta can do whatever they want moving forward, 1 MQD for every $1,000,000 spent at vape shops, unlocked only after a verified backflip at the gate, for all I care. There would probably be a few takers looking for a loophole.
The rollover MQMs are not being treated fairly. This is a retroactive change since we were not warned on January 1st, and many of us were duped into spending tens of thousands extra under false pretenses. Delta's end of the deal, 6.5 billion in profit off their credit cards this year, no devaluation. I am going to convert from 80% towards platinum, to 50% towards sliver, 9.5 months too late to change my business spend for the year.
The rollover MQMs are not being treated fairly. This is a retroactive change since we were not warned on January 1st, and many of us were duped into spending tens of thousands extra under false pretenses. Delta's end of the deal, 6.5 billion in profit off their credit cards this year, no devaluation. I am going to convert from 80% towards platinum, to 50% towards sliver, 9.5 months too late to change my business spend for the year.
Sep 17, 2023, 3:37 pm
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