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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:22 pm
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Highlights of SkyMiles Program Changes and Status Requirement Thresholds
  • Delta and partner flights: Earn 1 MQD per $1 spent on the ticket price for a Delta-marketed flight operated by Delta or by a partner airline.
  • Flights booked and ticketed by eligible partners will earn MQDs at the same rate as they do today, based on the fare class purchased and distance flown. Delta has revamped the MQD earning charts on many partners. Notably, non-full fare Business has been reduced from 40% to 30% on a number of core partners.
  • Credit cards: Delta SkyMiles Reserve American Express and Reserve Business Card Members earn 1 MQD for every $10 spent. Delta SkyMiles Platinum and Platinum Business American Express Card Members earn 1 MQD for every $20 spent. There is no limit to how many MQDs you can earn from credit card spending.
  • Credit Card MQD Headstart: Updated 18 October 2023: Members with the Delta SkyMiles Reserve, Reserve Business, Delta SkyMiles Platinum and Platinum Business American Express Cards will also receive an MQD Headstart of $2,500 MQDs for the current Medallion Qualification Year
  • Car rentals: Earn 1 MQD per $1 spent on completed car rentals booked through Delta direct channels.
  • Hotel stays: Earn 1 MQD per $1 spent on completed stays booked through Delta direct channels.
    Hotel Stays and Car Rentals: Customers may earn MQDs through Delta flights, Delta Vacations packages, and purchases on the Delta SkyMiles Platinum, Platinum Business, Reserve and Reserve Business American Express Cards. Car rentals and hotel/vacation rentals booked through Delta Car Rentals and Delta Stays will not earn MQDs toward Medallion Status (​​​​​Updated 18 October 2023).
    **Delta will honor MQDs earned on Member car rentals and hotel/vacation rentals booked through Delta Car Rentals and Stays between September 14, 2023 and October 31, 2023, for 2024 travel.
  • Delta Vacations: Earn 1 MQD per $1 spent on the entire vacation experience, in addition to what you earn for your flight, when booking directly with Delta Vacations.
Updated by Delta 0n 18 October 2023:
Making Medallion Status More Accessible:
We will reduce the proposed number of Medallion Qualifying Dollars (MQDs) needed to earn 2025 Medallion Status.
  • Silver Medallion Status: from 6,000 to 5,000 MQDs
  • Gold Medallion Status: from 12,000 to 10,000 MQDs
  • Platinum Medallion Status: from 18,000 to 15,000 MQDs
  • Diamond Medallion Status: from 35,000 to 28,000 MQDs

Your Existing MQMs:
  • Convert to MQD at 20:1 MQDs will convert at 10:1 (updated on 18 October 2023)
    Also: Beginning in early 2024, Members will have a choice as to whether to put MQM Rollover balances toward MQDs or SkyMiles. And customers who have MQM Rollover balances over 100,000 will be given special offers to extend their earned 2024 Status—one year for each 100K Rollover MQMs. Delta will also provide an option to convert MQM Rollover balances into MQDs at a more generous ratio of 10:1 (up from 20:1). Members will also be able to convert MQMs Rollover balances to SkyMiles at a ratio of 2:1.
  • Convert to redeemable SkyMiles at 2:1
Rollover:
  • Gone after 2023.
Credit Card MQD Earnings Rates (MQD Boost benefit):
  • Delta Amex Blue: Zero
  • Delta Amex Gold: Zero
  • Delta Amex Platinum: 1 MQD per $20 spent
  • Delta Amex Reserve: 1 MQD per $10 spent
Million Miler Status
Beginning in January 2024, Million Miler status will go to BIS miles flown only.

Updated 18 October 2023:
More Recognition and Rewards for Long-Term LoyaltyDelta is giving long-term loyalists more of the recognition they deserve. Effective January 1, 2024, the airline is moving Million Miler Status up in the hierarchy for Complimentary Upgrades. And beginning February 1, 2024, Million Milers will also receive enhanced complimentary annual Medallion Status.
  • 6 million miles or more earns Delta 360o™ (previously Diamond Medallion)
  • 5 million miles earns Delta 360o™ (previously Platinum Medallion)
  • 4 million miles earns Diamond Medallion (previously Platinum Medallion)
  • 3 million miles earns Diamond Medallion (previously Gold Medallion)
  • 2 million miles earns Platinum Medallion (previously Gold Medallion)
  • 1 million miles earns Gold Medallion (previously Silver Medallion)
Million miler status moves to priority number 3 in the complimentary upgrade hierarchy
Priority order through 12/31/23:
  1. Medallion status
  2. Fare class groupings: higher-prices fares are ranked above lower-priced fares
  3. Delta Reserve AmEx card members
Priority order beginning 1/1/24:
  1. Medallion status
  2. Cabin purchased (original + paid upgrades)
  3. Million miler status
  4. Delta AmEx Reserve card members
  5. Delta Corporate Travellers
  6. MQSs earned in current calendar year
  7. Date and time of upgrade request

Official announcement from Delta Air Lines:
https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles...rogram-updates

18 October 2023 Rollback/Update Announcement:
https://news.delta.com/delta-shares-...oyalty-program


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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:35 pm
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I'm actually quite happy about the changes. It will make FO and GM much more valuable than they are now since PM/DM will not be so easy to achieve anymore, and limit Amex Platinum non-medallions in the SkyClub.
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:36 pm
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Damn. 35,000 MQDs for Diamond is steep!
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:37 pm
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Hahahaha this is hilarious. Looks like the only people who are earning status now are full-fare hub captives and chumps who actually spend money on Delta credit cards.

The only way this would pencil out is if SkyMiles cards actually offered a good rate of return. When you consider the value of a redeemed SkyMile (basically a Reichsmark circa 1922), you're essentially handing Amex and Delta free money when you chase status through credit card spending.

They took AA's system and made a much worse version. Nice job
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:38 pm
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Did I miss it, or nothing on boosts? Because without some kind of boost it looks like I'll qualify for "Rapid Rewards Member".
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by mills1090
So what is the point of holding the Reserve anymore?
If you were only holding it for the perks and/or MQD waiver, there is no longer a point.
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by KDCAflyer
Hahahaha this is hilarious. Looks like the only people who are earning status now are full-fare hub captives and chumps who actually spend money on Delta credit cards.

The only way this would pencil out is if SkyMiles cards actually offered a good rate of return. When you consider the value of a redeemed SkyMile (basically a Reichsmark circa 1922), you're essentially handing Amex and Delta free money when you chase status through credit card spending.

They took AA's system and made a much worse version. Nice job
Wonder how fast AA/UA will try to grab Delta Elites into doing "Status Matches"?
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by KDCAflyer
Hahahaha this is hilarious. Looks like the only people who are earning status now are full-fare hub captives and chumps who actually spend money on Delta credit cards.

The only way this would pencil out is if SkyMiles cards actually offered a good rate of return. When you consider the value of a redeemed SkyMile (basically a Reichsmark circa 1922), you're essentially handing Amex and Delta free money when you chase status through credit card spending.

They took AA's system and made a much worse version. Nice job
Seems like a minor exaggeration. SM are generally worth at the very least one cent per mile, if I understand correctly, and sometimes (or almost always, e.g. with the 15% cardholder discount) more. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the benchmark for easily-obtainable cashback 2%? Sure, it’s less in straight value than you could get elsewhere, but it’s far from absolutely worthless. I wish cards that were even as good as that existed here in Israel.
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by DrMilano
With the Reserve cards earning $10 spent to 1 MQD:

FO = $60,000 cobranded spend
GM = $120,000 cobranded spend
PM = $180,000 cobranded spend
DM = $350,000 cobranded spend.

This change will sting the $25,000 MQD PM waivers.
I am surprised at how much higher this is compared to AA which is 40k, 75k, 125, and 200k
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by defrosted
Did I miss it, or nothing on boosts? Because without some kind of boost it looks like I'll qualify for "Rapid Rewards Member".
The boosts are just built in to the system now, at $10:MQD1 on a sliding scale as opposed to having to hit thresholds that you get nothing for just barely missing.
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:45 pm
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Million Miler status is changing with no more MQM bonus, as going back to good old BIS. I greatly appreciate how starting 2024 the #3 tie breaker will be MM status after Medallion Status and fare class, as I have a feeling the 2025 PM will be the old DM flyers and 2025 DM will be Delta 360. So much for the Reserve being the third tiebreaker.
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by DiverDave
In the midst of record profits, a record setting kick in the teeth.
This wouldn't happen in a competitive environment.
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:49 pm
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Hell even earning Gold is going to be a challenge...and I've been Platinum (with some diamond mixed in) for 10+ years.

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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:52 pm
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There is no mention of the Delta Gold Amex card and if it will earn MQD's. Or did I miss that?
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:52 pm
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RIP DL Reserve card.
If both DL RSRV and normal AMEX Plat gives you the same 10 visits per year, and both allows for unlimited visits after $75K spend annually, what is even the point (serious question) of having a DL branded AMEX RSRV card?
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Old Sep 13, 2023, 3:53 pm
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Unfortunately my Reserve just renewed and I need the 15k MQM to secure PM for next year (because I accidentally underspent by $500 last year and I’m putting my last Europe trip of the year on UA and not DL so I can maintain UA Gold).

That will be the end of that — and the end of status on DL.

Hello United, my old friend
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