Status - Earned vs Unearned
#16
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I believe fare class still trumps "earned status" for complimentary upgrades, and that this must be lower down on the list of factors. I have unearned DM status this year and was #1 out of roughly 85 passengers on an upgrade list recently (SLC-ATL) when traveling on a Y fare (due to agent mistake when rebooking me after a schedule change). If earned status were the top factor, there's no way I would have been upgraded with that many elites.
I had a flight this week that had 12 out of 20 open n F at the 6 day mark and there were 3 given out at 5 days. At check in there were 2 available seats and it went to the gate with 2 available and 2 on the UG list, bot of whom cleared. The FCM price was ridiculously high.
#17
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It might help to know whether the flight was an elite heavy route and time.
I'm also starting to wonder, given that DL has been giving out some comped status, whether they are also giving out comped "earned" (rather than extended) status for those who were close to earning their status tier at the end of 2021. However, there wouldn't be much point to doing this if they don't announce the decision to the customer.
I'm also starting to wonder, given that DL has been giving out some comped status, whether they are also giving out comped "earned" (rather than extended) status for those who were close to earning their status tier at the end of 2021. However, there wouldn't be much point to doing this if they don't announce the decision to the customer.
#18
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I think the OPs point and question is DL IT really doing what was said and promised and I for one do not think they are. I have very little confidence in DL IT and trying to keep track of who did and did not earn status at the moment seems like a lot of work for them Especially as people are starting to earn 2023 status.
#19
Join Date: Aug 2016
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I believe fare class still trumps "earned status" for complimentary upgrades, and that this must be lower down on the list of factors. I have unearned DM status this year and was #1 out of roughly 85 passengers on an upgrade list recently (SLC-ATL) when traveling on a Y fare (due to agent mistake when rebooking me after a schedule change). If earned status were the top factor, there's no way I would have been upgraded with that many elites.
#20
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: Delta DM, Hyatt Globalist
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It might help to know whether the flight was an elite heavy route and time.
I'm also starting to wonder, given that DL has been giving out some comped status, whether they are also giving out comped "earned" (rather than extended) status for those who were close to earning their status tier at the end of 2021. However, there wouldn't be much point to doing this if they don't announce the decision to the customer.
I'm also starting to wonder, given that DL has been giving out some comped status, whether they are also giving out comped "earned" (rather than extended) status for those who were close to earning their status tier at the end of 2021. However, there wouldn't be much point to doing this if they don't announce the decision to the customer.
#21
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My reading of the Delta.com web page on upgrade order is that earned status trumps fare class groupings, e.g. an earned diamond on a V fare would be upgraded before an unearned diamond on a Y fare. This is entirely based on the asterisk being attached to the first tiebreaker, though I agree that another reading is possible.
#22
Join Date: Aug 2016
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Had the chance to test this today, traveling on the same flight as a family member (separate reservations).
Them: extended DM, 2MM, Reserve card, L fare booked 4 weeks out
Me: earned DM, Reserve card, V fare booked 1 week out
Neither of us were on corporate fares or earned the MQD waiver this year (the other tiebreakers).
I was higher on the UG list, so it seems the earned status priority is working as expected.
Them: extended DM, 2MM, Reserve card, L fare booked 4 weeks out
Me: earned DM, Reserve card, V fare booked 1 week out
Neither of us were on corporate fares or earned the MQD waiver this year (the other tiebreakers).
I was higher on the UG list, so it seems the earned status priority is working as expected.
#23
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Had the chance to test this today, traveling on the same flight as a family member (separate reservations).
Them: extended DM, 2MM, Reserve card, L fare booked 4 weeks out
Me: earned DM, Reserve card, V fare booked 1 week out
Neither of us were on corporate fares or earned the MQD waiver this year (the other tiebreakers).
I was higher on the UG list, so it seems the earned status priority is working as expected.
Them: extended DM, 2MM, Reserve card, L fare booked 4 weeks out
Me: earned DM, Reserve card, V fare booked 1 week out
Neither of us were on corporate fares or earned the MQD waiver this year (the other tiebreakers).
I was higher on the UG list, so it seems the earned status priority is working as expected.
#24
Join Date: May 2010
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Well you could do like the person I ran into a few years ago flying out of Minneapolis who as they got the plane stopped at the first few rows at first class to quiz everyone sitting there to make sure that we weren’t the reason he hadn’t gotten upgraded. He was stopped by the flight attendant but not before he asked the woman next to me how she got his upgrade and she looked at him and said “I’m old, I’m rich and I paid for the seat”. The rest of the first class burst out laughing and the flight attendant moved Mr DYKWIA along
so I guess what you could do is get on and ask everyone if they got upgraded because they were diamond and if they earned that status 😂
so I guess what you could do is get on and ask everyone if they got upgraded because they were diamond and if they earned that status 😂
#25
Join Date: Aug 2016
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No, there was a schedule change on my original flight but I waited until my schedule was final before using the online system to make the change (it retained the original booking class despite V not being available on the new flight).