Status - Earned vs Unearned
#1
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Status - Earned vs Unearned
As an earned DM member, supposedly having a higher upgrade priority over those with unearned status, we assume this is benefit is being extended if we know we earned the status. Though, how do you really know? I was wondering if DL will or should show via some new indicator of your "Current" status (e.g. Diamond Medallion +), to provide the confidence your status is correctly being taken into consideration for promise of higher upgrade priority.
I guess some form of check on this if you were given the option to select Choice Benefits. Since being able to select these is based on "earning" status, it would seem their system already can determine the difference and thus would be easy to show a different status. In the end, likely a moot point since there is no way to be assured Delta IT made the appropriate coding changes to the upgrade algorithm.
I guess some form of check on this if you were given the option to select Choice Benefits. Since being able to select these is based on "earning" status, it would seem their system already can determine the difference and thus would be easy to show a different status. In the end, likely a moot point since there is no way to be assured Delta IT made the appropriate coding changes to the upgrade algorithm.
#2
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The ability to select 2022 Choice Benefits would be one check as you noted. But you can also view your prior year earnings and details on the website on the "My Skymiles" webpage by clicking the "View Prior Year Details" link where you can effectively see where you ended up as far as "earned" status.
https://www.delta.com/acctactvty/myskymiles.action
https://www.delta.com/acctactvty/myskymiles.action
#3
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if you're asking if the upgrade list is actually being ordered as they say it is, there's no way to know short of asking all the other passengers for all of their status and ticket details, which of course, was exactly the situation before this new split between earned and extended medallions.
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I mean a similar situation can be said now on AA, in theory we have a rolling 12 month set of converted "Loyalty Points" but there's no way to know one's own rolling balance let alone everyone else on the plane / upgrade list, it's a true trust game and I know of that, we have little, but, alas.
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How did we ever know whether ANY of DL’s Upgrade prioritizations were being applied properly? There are like 6-7 published priorities/tie-breakers tough I’m sure rarely more than a few end up used for any given person. Seems pointless to get worked up.
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I think I was prioritized - received a complementary gate upgrade to 764 J cabin (SFO to JFK) on a deep discounted fare.
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Who got "worked" up?
Last edited by DeltaFFATL; Mar 8, 2022 at 5:03 pm
#10
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This whole process has been confusing. I must have earned my status because I can select a choice benefit, except that was probably with rollover I wouldn't normally have got so did I really earn it?
My point is I stopped trying to figure it all out and the chips fell where they fell. It isn't like I could do anything about it. To op's point it would be nice to know. Although I want to say they said it that way in the email I got. However I doubt Delta wants to create two tiers for every teir in their program.
Regarding the upgrades, there is too much in play to know if it really has an impact anyway. Even if they proved it was being considered no way to know if consistently that helped secure an upgrade. As long as just one other earned medallion at the same level as you is on the flight it doesn't really matter when you are 2 of 53 for 1.
My point is I stopped trying to figure it all out and the chips fell where they fell. It isn't like I could do anything about it. To op's point it would be nice to know. Although I want to say they said it that way in the email I got. However I doubt Delta wants to create two tiers for every teir in their program.
Regarding the upgrades, there is too much in play to know if it really has an impact anyway. Even if they proved it was being considered no way to know if consistently that helped secure an upgrade. As long as just one other earned medallion at the same level as you is on the flight it doesn't really matter when you are 2 of 53 for 1.
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I'm assuming you see a 2022 Choice Benefit (indicating you earned status during 2021 calendar year)? It should be fairly obvious if you earned it or not if you look at "View Prior Year Details" page on "My Skymiles" webpage (link above) and met the Plat requirements during 2021.
#12
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I believe fare class still trumps "earned status" for complimentary upgrades, and that this must be lower down on the list of factors. I have unearned DM status this year and was #1 out of roughly 85 passengers on an upgrade list recently (SLC-ATL) when traveling on a Y fare (due to agent mistake when rebooking me after a schedule change). If earned status were the top factor, there's no way I would have been upgraded with that many elites.
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Once you select your Choice Benefit(s) the Choice Benefits line is removed from the selection menu.
Agree that looking at the Prior Year is the best way to tell
Agree that looking at the Prior Year is the best way to tell
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I believe fare class still trumps "earned status" for complimentary upgrades, and that this must be lower down on the list of factors. I have unearned DM status this year and was #1 out of roughly 85 passengers on an upgrade list recently (SLC-ATL) when traveling on a Y fare (due to agent mistake when rebooking me after a schedule change). If earned status were the top factor, there's no way I would have been upgraded with that many elites.
Last edited by xliioper; Mar 9, 2022 at 12:39 pm
#15
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Unless maybe the earned DMs were upgraded prior to the gate and you were simply at the top of the heap of the unearned DMs (based on Y fare). My guess is that there are not that many earned DMs out there. While MQMs have been rolling over, MQDs have not and is likely significantly culling the herd of earned DMs.