Originally Posted by cincyflyer513
(Post 35809073)
I apologize for the newbie question, but this is my first time attempting to use the new RUC redemption process.
So, I search for flights and see the "First available with upgrade certificate" on one. I choose Main. On the next screen where I fill out passenger information, I don't see any way to select that I want to use the RUC. (Going to "Use eCredits" shows that the RUC exists but no way to select it.) Do I have to go through "Complete Purchase" first and then apply the RUC? I'm sure I'm missing something. Thanks in advance. |
Originally Posted by cincyflyer513
(Post 35809073)
I apologize for the newbie question, but this is my first time attempting to use the new RUC redemption process.
So, I search for flights and see the "First available with upgrade certificate" on one. I choose Main. On the next screen where I fill out passenger information, I don't see any way to select that I want to use the RUC. (Going to "Use eCredits" shows that the RUC exists but no way to select it.) Do I have to go through "Complete Purchase" first and then apply the RUC? I'm sure I'm missing something. Thanks in advance. In all cases, you can also just call to waitlist the RUC. If seleting the RUC on the website works, then it should clear immediately if theres space. Waitlisiting at booking is more iffy. It will tell you that you are waitlisted, but unless you have the telltale signs of a successful waitlist (extra seat maps), you will have to call in to have it done properly. |
Originally Posted by diburning
(Post 35810203)
It depends on which checkout interface the website serves you. Sometimes it serves you the old one which doesn't have the option to apply a RUC. Sometimes it serves you the new one which does. Sometimes it serves you the new interface, but still without the ability to apply a RUC. I haven't been able to figure out any rhyme or reason to it.
In all cases, you can also just call to waitlist the RUC. If seleting the RUC on the website works, then it should clear immediately if theres space. Waitlisiting at booking is more iffy. It will tell you that you are waitlisted, but unless you have the telltale signs of a successful waitlist (extra seat maps), you will have to call in to have it done properly. |
Originally Posted by sethb
(Post 35812436)
If the website says the flight has F available with an upgrade cert, calling to apply the RUC should clear immediately.
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Originally Posted by Yellowjj
(Post 35812524)
Don't agents need to still re-issue the ticket when calling in (despite available space)?
So now the best odds for using an RUC/GUC is to find availability around 1-2 months prior to departure when schedule changes aren't as likely. Any further out and the schedule changes will occur. Any closer in and availability isn't likely there. YMMV. |
Originally Posted by GagaPilot
(Post 35812581)
New policy is that agents are no longer allowed to re-issue the ticket when an RUC/GUC clears until T-24 before departure.
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Originally Posted by Yellowjj
(Post 35813667)
That's my concern, as I've seen that mentioned a lot in the last few weeks. So even if space is showing immediately available online; they still will not clear you and let you go in the queue.
When checkin fails, the agent is allowed to then reissue the ticket to the proper class so that everything matches. Until then it’s a mismatch and liable to switch back and is essentially not confirmed. If the UG is applied via the online self service option on the website the ticket does not need to be reissued (it just auto revalidates) but still poses the issue where the system can move one back to Y in the event of changes. |
Just to be clear, the computer will keep you in OL (in positive space) in the event of a schedule change.
The problem is that the humans often don't do this, if you need to call and request a different rebooking than what the computer did automatically. It's a human issue, not a system issue. |
Originally Posted by diburning
(Post 35810203)
It depends on which checkout interface the website serves you. Sometimes it serves you the old one which doesn't have the option to apply a RUC. Sometimes it serves you the new one which does. Sometimes it serves you the new interface, but still without the ability to apply a RUC. I haven't been able to figure out any rhyme or reason to it.
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Originally Posted by GagaPilot
(Post 35812581)
New policy is that agents are no longer allowed to re-issue the ticket when an RUC/GUC clears until T-24 before departure... You can occasionally get an old-school agent who will reissue because they understand just how bad of a policy this is. But most newer agents simply won't do it because they are supposedly risking discipline for doing so.
YMMV. |
Originally Posted by rylan
(Post 35813947)
Where did you hear/read this is official policy? My experience states otherwise... and in fact I just used the sketchy text/chat function with whatever outsourced agent was on the other end and had them apply a RUC for an upcoming flight that had Z open up. I provided the cert info and didn't even have to ask if they would reissue. They did it immediately.
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Originally Posted by GagaPilot
(Post 35812581)
New policy is that agents are no longer allowed to re-issue the ticket when an RUC/GUC clears until T-24 before departure. This means that if there are any schedule changes the UG is subject to having to re-clear if there is no inventory available at the time. It's an extremely customer unfriendly policy that allows your UG to be lost and gives DL a chance to sell the F seat. You can occasionally get an old-school agent who will reissue because they understand just how bad of a policy this is. But most newer agents simply won't do it because they are supposedly risking discipline for doing so.
So now the best odds for using an RUC/GUC is to find availability around 1-2 months prior to departure when schedule changes aren't as likely. Any further out and the schedule changes will occur. Any closer in and availability isn't likely there. YMMV. |
Originally Posted by aacar
(Post 35814012)
+1, I had a similar experience just last week. Not sure why some posters claim there is such an policy based on what some phone reps might have said.
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Originally Posted by rylan
(Post 35813947)
Where did you hear/read this is official policy? My experience states otherwise... and in fact I just used the sketchy text/chat function with whatever outsourced agent was on the other end and had them apply a RUC for an upcoming flight that had Z open up. I provided the cert info and didn't even have to ask if they would reissue. They did it immediately.
In late September I spent 2 weeks calling almost daily to get a ticket reissued and no dice at all. Every agent reiterated the new policy. Have not used an RUC via phone agent since.
Originally Posted by aacar
(Post 35814012)
+1, I had a similar experience just last week. Not sure why some posters claim there is such an policy based on what some phone reps might have said.
Originally Posted by diburning
(Post 35814771)
If this is the policy, then those who are able to apply the RUC online and have it clear immediately are circumventing this policy.
Originally Posted by RealHJ
(Post 35814864)
Different agents will do different things. 10 agents may not apply the cert properly and tell you to go and pound sand. 11th agent might just reticket you in F (or some other full fare class) even when cert space is not available. It's all a matter of luck. As always with Delta, the only thing consistent is total lack of consistency.
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Originally Posted by findark
(Post 35813774)
Just to be clear, the computer will keep you in OL (in positive space) in the event of a schedule change.
The problem is that the humans often don't do this, if you need to call and request a different rebooking than what the computer did automatically. It's a human issue, not a system issue. |
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