Delta Accelerates Airbus Deliveries
Apr 25, 2021, 8:52 am
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Apr 25, 2021, 10:17 am
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I'm all for blind tests to find out if conventional wisdom actually holds up, but starting with the hypothesis that people can't tell the difference in an inch of seat width when we're talking about seats that most moderately-overweight-to-slightly-obese americans can barely fit into to begin with is pretty bold.
Apr 25, 2021, 11:21 am
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I can definitely tell when I am on and Airbus versus a Boeing narrowbody. The 757 is the best experience: Door 2L boarding makes for an especially nice experience because you don't have a ton of Y passengers going past the F cabin. The mid-cabin lav also makes a big difference in making 2 lavs available for F. It's too bad that Boeing didn't invest in a refreshed 757 product. The A319, A320, and A321 are next best but they are more spacious and less likely to have cramped lavs. The new configs of the 737 -- hard and narrow seats, tiny lavs -- are just miserable.
Apr 25, 2021, 2:48 pm
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These, and maybe the outstanding performance with the big engines, are the only reasons FT'ers like the 757. And they are good ones---best narrowbody at separating F from Y. Daze
Apr 27, 2021, 1:05 pm
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Apr 27, 2021, 2:20 pm
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One major difference between the 737 and 757 is that the forward lav on the 737 is where the fuselage has already begun tapering significantly and makes the lav incredibly cramped. I also believe the lavs in Y are smaller on the 737s than on the 757s as well.
Additionally, at least per SeatGuru, the DL 757Ds have a seat pitch of 30-32" while the 757S's have a pitch of 31-33". Seat pitch on the 737-900s in Y is 30-31." C+ on the 757S is 35" (34" on the 757D) while it's 34" on the 737-900. For those of us who are tall, every inch of pitch helps in some of these varying configurations.
Additionally, at least per SeatGuru, the DL 757Ds have a seat pitch of 30-32" while the 757S's have a pitch of 31-33". Seat pitch on the 737-900s in Y is 30-31." C+ on the 757S is 35" (34" on the 757D) while it's 34" on the 737-900. For those of us who are tall, every inch of pitch helps in some of these varying configurations.
Apr 27, 2021, 2:50 pm
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No, the 75S (which are the D1-equipped planes) have the latest PTV screens, as do the 75Ds (the bulk of the domestic 757s). I believe the 75H are the ones you are referring to which still have the smaller screens (like a portion of the 738 fleet); the main difference (besides the screens) between the 75H and the 75D is that the 75H has ETOPS and thus can be used for Hawaii and some Europe (like Iceland) routes. The 75Hs were also previously used on those Japan-Guam/Saipan routes as well.
Apr 27, 2021, 8:51 pm
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I’ve flown in Y on a 9 across 777 (DL) and in Y on a 10 across 777 (Omni Air). The 9 across had a seat width of 18.5”. The 10 across had a seat width of 17.3”. 10 across in Y on a 777 is one of the most miserable experiences flying there is. There absolutely is a noticeable difference especially when the armrest is also narrower but that isn’t captured in the “seat width” figure. Seat width is measured as the space between the armrests, not from the center point of each armrest so even two seats that both advertise the same seat width could actually have different shoulder room because of armrests that may be an inch or two wider than the other seat type.
Apr 27, 2021, 10:18 pm
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I used to fly a lot on AF's 777, for short rides such as CDG-JFK and CDG-DXB where Business was not an option, the experience was indeed miserable with 10 seats across. Moved to the US and flew mainly DL A330s / 772. But on one occasion had to fly an AF772 to CDG and the difference was noticeable.
Apr 28, 2021, 8:03 am
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My guess is it was either too expensive for OP's budget if self-paying or the flight wasn't long enough to qualify for J based on OP's employer's or client's travel policy (i.e. the travel policies of whomever was paying).
Apr 28, 2021, 9:27 am
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AF did operate a 14-J configuration between CDG and some places (mostly Caribbean islands) with old seats and very cramped Y seats, they packed 470 passengers in a 77W. I took the flight from SDQ to CDG once in Y for personal travel, one of the biggest travel mistakes I've ever made as it was quite expensive for such miserable experience. For $400-500 more I was able to fly CDG-JFK-SDQ in J.