JNB A350 Now Scheduled
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JNB A350 Now Scheduled
Was checking for flight to JNB in May 2021 and I am seeing that the A350 has been added.
JNB to ATL is showing up as a NonStop...this was for May 10th
RIP 777!
JNB to ATL is showing up as a NonStop...this was for May 10th
RIP 777!
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I wonder if you can book the CPT flight via that
NOPE! Can't book CPT at this point on DL
NOPE! Can't book CPT at this point on DL
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The A350 flights have also been loaded for SYD after 1/1, so if you have a reservation for 2021 make sure to double-check that you still have the seats you want assigned.
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I’d personally love it if DL would sell RT ATL-CPT. It’s long been on my list of places to go.
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CPT is definitely coming back once approved.
Delta Plans to Offer New Service to Cape Town, South Africa | Frequent Business Traveler
Delta Plans to Offer New Service to Cape Town, South Africa | Frequent Business Traveler
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CPT is definitely coming back once approved.
Delta Plans to Offer New Service to Cape Town, South Africa | Frequent Business Traveler
Delta Plans to Offer New Service to Cape Town, South Africa | Frequent Business Traveler
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Elevation
I seem to recall this issue from long ago . . .
Johannesburg airport has an elevation of around 5,700 feet. No problems getting there, but the elevation reduces aircraft performance at take off, and airlines often can't load up with enough fuel (too heavy) to make it back to North American destinations. At least, not the combination of fuel, passengers, and freight they might need to make for a profitable flight.
Capetown airport is near sea level, so on the return flights (to North America) they schedule a short hop to Capetown, where they can load up on fuel there for the long haul back. Apparently the performance difference between the 777-200LR and the A350-900 is just enough to require the added stop when A350's take over the route.
Johannesburg airport has an elevation of around 5,700 feet. No problems getting there, but the elevation reduces aircraft performance at take off, and airlines often can't load up with enough fuel (too heavy) to make it back to North American destinations. At least, not the combination of fuel, passengers, and freight they might need to make for a profitable flight.
Capetown airport is near sea level, so on the return flights (to North America) they schedule a short hop to Capetown, where they can load up on fuel there for the long haul back. Apparently the performance difference between the 777-200LR and the A350-900 is just enough to require the added stop when A350's take over the route.
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Capetown airport is near sea level, so on the return flights (to North America) they schedule a short hop to Capetown, where they can load up on fuel there for the long haul back. Apparently the performance difference between the 777-200LR and the A350-900 is just enough to require the added stop when A350's take over the route.
Last year the JNB-ATL flight on a 777-200LR had to divert due to headwinds... to JFK! It's a quirk of the geography that JFK is actually closer than ATL.
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I seem to recall this issue from long ago . . .
Johannesburg airport has an elevation of around 5,700 feet. No problems getting there, but the elevation reduces aircraft performance at take off, and airlines often can't load up with enough fuel (too heavy) to make it back to North American destinations. At least, not the combination of fuel, passengers, and freight they might need to make for a profitable flight.
Johannesburg airport has an elevation of around 5,700 feet. No problems getting there, but the elevation reduces aircraft performance at take off, and airlines often can't load up with enough fuel (too heavy) to make it back to North American destinations. At least, not the combination of fuel, passengers, and freight they might need to make for a profitable flight.
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South America would be a mid-flight, likely emergency diversion, it seems this diversion was actually planned prior to the flight's departure, in which case it's much easier to divert to a Delta hub where you have a plethora of ground staff and existing facilities.
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Supposedly the A350-900s that DL currently has cannot make JNB-ATL with a full enough payload, but the future deliveries DL has scheduled will have a higher MTOW that will allow them to fly JNB-ATL nonstop. Therefore, they will be flying a triangle route ATL-JNB-CPT-ATL, though unfortunately they do not have domestic traffic rights to carry passengers solely on JNB-CPT. It is not currently obvious whether the CPT stop will stay once they get more A350s.
Last year the JNB-ATL flight on a 777-200LR had to divert due to headwinds... to JFK! It's a quirk of the geography that JFK is actually closer than ATL.
Last year the JNB-ATL flight on a 777-200LR had to divert due to headwinds... to JFK! It's a quirk of the geography that JFK is actually closer than ATL.
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Bumping this thread. Delta has pushed back the start date for the JNB/CPT service to June 1, and could bump it further according to the latest I could find on the topic.
(https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-...jnb-cpt-route/)
I'm scheduled to head down to CPT in November. Delta One service was a surprisingly good price when I booked. Now I see Delta wants around $13K for Delta One to CPT round trip in November.
Could this be a pre-cursor to them bumping the service start date back into 2022?
(https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-...jnb-cpt-route/)
I'm scheduled to head down to CPT in November. Delta One service was a surprisingly good price when I booked. Now I see Delta wants around $13K for Delta One to CPT round trip in November.
Could this be a pre-cursor to them bumping the service start date back into 2022?