JNB A350 Now Scheduled
#31
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Possibly they’re planning to start payload restricted, which makes sense with the slower return of international travel.
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I've flown to JNB couple times last few months. While not full, the planes are nowhere near as empty as you'd think. ZA has been one of the few countries open for tourism for months.
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Lucky just posted an article and cited a DOT filing stating this was a done deal. No more CPT stop.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/delt...-town-flights/
https://onemileatatime.com/news/delt...-town-flights/
#35
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The answer is simple
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT UA 187/188
DAILY FLIGHT FROM JNB TO EWR AND VICE VERSA
why would anyone from jnb want to fly to the USA via cpt /stop in cpt
This would add apreox 2hr of flying time and 1h45 mins on ground making it 3h45 and making the total flight time from approx 15hrs to 18hrs 45
People would rather choose united non-stop
Also jnb is a year round destination with higher yields and better connections tions from southern africa whereas cape Town is seasonal so to to gain market share or to maintain their market making non stop from jnb would be better and customers won't switch to united
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT UA 187/188
DAILY FLIGHT FROM JNB TO EWR AND VICE VERSA
why would anyone from jnb want to fly to the USA via cpt /stop in cpt
This would add apreox 2hr of flying time and 1h45 mins on ground making it 3h45 and making the total flight time from approx 15hrs to 18hrs 45
People would rather choose united non-stop
Also jnb is a year round destination with higher yields and better connections tions from southern africa whereas cape Town is seasonal so to to gain market share or to maintain their market making non stop from jnb would be better and customers won't switch to united
#36
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Yes but you've connected in Europe to get there right? So theoretically the flights will be fuller due to the vast amount of people who can begin/connect through Europe to get to JNB. A non-stop from the US is only going to be good for Americans as South Africa is on the ban list for re-entering the country, for any non-citizen.
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Yes but you've connected in Europe to get there right? So theoretically the flights will be fuller due to the vast amount of people who can begin/connect through Europe to get to JNB. A non-stop from the US is only going to be good for Americans as South Africa is on the ban list for re-entering the country, for any non-citizen.
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The answer is simple
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT UA 187/188
DAILY FLIGHT FROM JNB TO EWR AND VICE VERSA
why would anyone from jnb want to fly to the USA via cpt /stop in cpt
This would add apreox 2hr of flying time and 1h45 mins on ground making it 3h45 and making the total flight time from approx 15hrs to 18hrs 45
People would rather choose united non-stop
Also jnb is a year round destination with higher yields and better connections tions from southern africa whereas cape Town is seasonal so to to gain market share or to maintain their market making non stop from jnb would be better and customers won't switch to united
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT UA 187/188
DAILY FLIGHT FROM JNB TO EWR AND VICE VERSA
why would anyone from jnb want to fly to the USA via cpt /stop in cpt
This would add apreox 2hr of flying time and 1h45 mins on ground making it 3h45 and making the total flight time from approx 15hrs to 18hrs 45
People would rather choose united non-stop
Also jnb is a year round destination with higher yields and better connections tions from southern africa whereas cape Town is seasonal so to to gain market share or to maintain their market making non stop from jnb would be better and customers won't switch to united
Apparently DL was able to get A359s with needed capabilities sooner than originally planned.
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Called Delta about our November trip DCA-ATL-CPT. They offered to book me on DL metal to AMS and KL to CPT. Need to run some MQD and MQM scenarios to make sure DM will still work out by the end of the year.
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The updated schedules have been loaded and available for booking; JNB-ATL is now back to a nonstop at 16h20 mins starting Aug 2
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I was so hoping for the addition of CPT to the route map again. Connecting to another carrier at JNB sucks, as does connecting onto a joint venture partner through Europe. If JNB demand ever reaches the level it was once at, I personally think the case could be made for thrice weekly seasonal ATL-JNB-CPT routing, or perhaps even ATL-CPT-ATL.
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I was so hoping for the addition of CPT to the route map again. Connecting to another carrier at JNB sucks, as does connecting onto a joint venture partner through Europe. If JNB demand ever reaches the level it was once at, I personally think the case could be made for thrice weekly seasonal ATL-JNB-CPT routing, or perhaps even ATL-CPT-ATL.
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#44
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16hrs20mins? Is that with the trademark DL-schedule padding? If so, how are they shaving so much time? Last time I flew the route, the flight was 17hr45min.
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