Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Delta Air Lines | SkyMiles
Reload this Page >

Have you been seated next to someone against the social distancing policy?

Have you been seated next to someone against the social distancing policy?

Old May 13, 20, 1:59 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SLC
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 62
Have you been seated next to someone against the social distancing policy?

A few days ago my flight from ATL-BWI I was seated right next to someone else in my row, 2A/2B. This going against their new seating policy of 50% booking in first and 60% in economy. There were actually 3 no shows up front and that was the only reason everyone up front was able to move and not be seated right next to someone. So, since Delta has begun to announce it's seating policy how many people have been seated right next to someone anyways? They've generally done a pretty good job in my opinion handling the challenges of operating their fleet during Covid life but was wondering if this was an isolated incident with Delta or if there have been a lot of others that have run into the same thing since they announced the Covid seating policy? I've unfortunately had to continue to travel for work but this was the first time I've been seated next to someone in the last 3 months.
seowitz is offline  
Old May 13, 20, 8:52 am
  #2  
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 85
The new seating policy isn't retroactive, they've made cuts on future flights to prevent it, but if they overbook due to too many cancelled consolidated flights, they may not have a choice but to fly everyone, the 60% rule isn't a domestic law, it's simply what they are aiming for to comply with some international laws, like China for instance.
givionte is offline  
Old May 13, 20, 9:35 am
  #3  
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: St. Cloud, FL
Programs: DL PM, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 2,719
Originally Posted by seowitz View Post
A few days ago my flight from ATL-BWI I was seated right next to someone else in my row, 2A/2B. This going against their new seating policy of 50% booking in first and 60% in economy. There were actually 3 no shows up front and that was the only reason everyone up front was able to move and not be seated right next to someone. So, since Delta has begun to announce it's seating policy how many people have been seated right next to someone anyways? They've generally done a pretty good job in my opinion handling the challenges of operating their fleet during Covid life but was wondering if this was an isolated incident with Delta or if there have been a lot of others that have run into the same thing since they announced the Covid seating policy? I've unfortunately had to continue to travel for work but this was the first time I've been seated next to someone in the last 3 months.
Not sure if this is the reason why, but a theory I have is that DLs IT wasn’t kicking people out of pre-selected seats that were later blocked off. So if someone purchased a F ticket 2 weeks ago when their were no capacity restrictions and selected 2B (which has since been blocked off) and never changed their seat, then they would get to keep it.
MCO Flyer is offline  
Old May 13, 20, 9:53 am
  #4  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 48,856
It is also not financially viable for too much longer. Either fares go through the roof or something gives. CARES Act $ only go so far.
Bear96, PurdueFlyer, HDQDD and 3 others like this.
Often1 is offline  
Old May 13, 20, 10:18 am
  #5  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 91,123
Wasn't the initial policy not do free upgrades beyond 50% in FC and to block middle seats in PS, C+ and coach, plus not to put NRSAs on when it would make occupancy high?

If the 50%/60% are actual limits on sales, does this include projections of no shows or not? I can't believe that it would be used to IDB someone who had previously purchased a ticket.

Earlier I asked (but never saw an answer) about lap kids and whether they can occupy the blocked center seat if doing so would mean that they are sitting to someone who isn't traveling with the kid.
MSPeconomist is offline  
Old May 13, 20, 10:46 pm
  #6  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: AA GLD, AC
Posts: 2,841
Piling into this thread - I'm thinking of booking a flight from LGA to ORD in August, in the hope that things will be better then (if not, I'll just take a change voucher, no big deal).

I'd love to hear others' perceptions of safety. Thanks.
M60_to_LGA is offline  
Old May 14, 20, 1:38 pm
  #7  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: MSP
Programs: DL Platinum, 1 MM
Posts: 1,012
A friend flew into MSP this morning on the only flight today from BOS. He said the plane was about half full - there was an announcement that they had 86 passengers on board on an A321. That's in contrast to the same flight exactly a month ago on which he said they had 8 passengers.
drminn is offline  
Old May 15, 20, 8:40 am
  #8  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: HEF
Programs: Delta PM/2.9 MM; Hertz PC; National Executive Elite; Amtrak Guest Rewards; Marriott Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 4,367
When I did my one trip since the COVID panic started in earnest, I sat alone in 3 A/B, and then had the last row that they sold in coach (31F) to myself.

The MSP-SEA trip on 5/5 was close to a "sell-out" under their social distancing rules, with about 70 pax on a 737-800.

I was looking at a couple of possible trips, and I noticed that they've "X-outed" seats in F that they are not selling. I also noted that on a DCA-DTW-SFO itinerary in the first week of June, paid F is only about $60 more than paid C+.
ND76 is offline  
Old May 15, 20, 9:15 am
  #9  
Formerly known as scootr29
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 762
Just did a flight earlier this week and we were all staggered through out the plane....this was a 717 and I was in 14a...there was someone in 13a and someone in 15a. Both of those folks are within the 6 foot window.

People who are venturing out are going to have to get over the social distancing part of travel. If that is a concern to you don't travel!
txrus, HDQDD, CodeAdam10 and 1 others like this.
SSF556 is offline  
Old May 15, 20, 10:16 am
  #10  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: LAS - where you can get married and divorced in the same 24 hour period. Perfect for the woman who's saving herself for marriage and the man who wants a one night stand.
Programs: DL DM, Hilton Diamond, HI Spire, SPG gold, Marriott Gold, UA, AA, AS, WN kettle, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,575

Book 2 seats and wear a NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) Hazmat suit.

Last edited by puddinhead; May 15, 20 at 10:23 am
puddinhead is offline  
Old May 15, 20, 12:29 pm
  #11  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 48,856
Depending on the exact configuration, on a standard domestic single aisle aircraft in steerage, 6' of separation likely means seating people in windows only and alternating empty rows. Thus, one person for every six seats or roughly 16% of capacity. You do the math on what the PRASM for that seat will need to be for DL to break even once the CARES Act support runs out.
PurdueFlyer and MSPeconomist like this.
Often1 is offline  
Old May 15, 20, 1:11 pm
  #12  
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: SNA/LAX
Programs: DL Diamond, SW A List, HHonors Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum United 1K
Posts: 202
Originally Posted by puddinhead View Post

Book 2 seats and wear a NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) Hazmat suit.
haha, I know you’re joking but on yesterday’s (pretty full under the new rules) SEA-LAX two passengers showed up wearing white hazmat suits, full face shield, mask and gloves. On the other end of the spectrum my neighbor across the aisle (15D) boarded without a mask, glared at the FA when she told him he needed to wear one, then promptly removed it again for most of the flight.

you’ll get all kinds and if you’re gonna get on a plane (which I’m not planning on doing for the foreseeable future) you need to be okay with that...
gigglypug is offline  
Old May 16, 20, 12:52 pm
  #13  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Delta Skymiles
Posts: 1,410
I think it is about mitigating risk. Unfortunately airplanes will never be places that you can social distance. However, if you can limit capacity it helps mitigate the risk.

I personally will only fly on an airplane out of absolute necessity for the foreseeable future, and I suspect many people will feel the same way about that. It does get tricky when you work in a corporation and your boss encourages, or you feel pressure to travel. There are also family emergencies, etc. that require a flight. Other than that, I plan to not be up in the air for a very long time. You can thank me for your enhanced upgrade chances!

There is no way that Delta will be able to run a plane profitably on that amount of social distancing for the long term, but I also think we will have more CARES act money coming the airlines way soon. There is no way in an election year the president or the congress will want to have the domestic airline industry absolutely decimated, especially since they didn't just let one or two of them fail right out of the gate. They will double down on their strategy and brag about how they saved those jobs. Especially with Georgia and Texas being big swing states potentially in this election.
ryw likes this.
cfabar1 is offline  
Old May 16, 20, 4:06 pm
  #14  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: SLC, Ut ,USA
Programs: AAdvantage, Skymiles, Mileage Plus, BA Executive Club, WorldPerks
Posts: 398
Originally Posted by SSF556 View Post
.

People who are venturing out are going to have to get over the social distancing part of travel. If that is a concern to you don't travel!

Precisely. If demand returns blocking seats is not a fiscally responsible policy even if COVID-19 is not under control. If you are uncomfortable sitting next to someone else, don't travel. Personally I don't think COVID-19 will ever go away but hopefully it can be controlled. Each person is going to have to decide for themselves what risks they are willing to accept.
txrus likes this.
ss278 is offline  
Old May 16, 20, 4:31 pm
  #15  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 91,123
DL seems to permit anyone to buy two seats for any reason. Some other carriers, IIRC WN for example, require that the person be too big for one seat.

Maybe DL ieventually permit one to buy something like one and a half tickets or pay a fee (although Frontier got bad publicity for this policy and dropped it) to guarantee an empty middle seat, or DL could just promise to block middle seats in C+ or create the equivalent of EuroBusiness cabins and fares.
MSPeconomist is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search Engine: