GrayAnderson

Well, I think a signal other than "mandatory shutdown" will get you a long way in that direction, but I agree that the post-virus airline market may well be perhaps 20-30% smaller than the pre-virus market for a few years. As Mr. Tickets said above, this is probably going to come back next year, and if the data comes out that you don't acquire an immunity from this from having it are true (which I admit I see as questionable if only because it is irregular; there might be two strains of this but it isn't like this is the "common cold", which in terms of greatly varied variety of the underlying viruses is rather like calling a hotel a "Marriott" anymore) then I'm wondering just how useful a vaccine is going to be...and that's relevant insofar as it could make for a very suppressed airline market for quite some time.

(Lemme put it this way: I've already read this novel and I have a good sense of what a world with a nasty little virus like this bouncing around is going to look like. I ain't looking forward to it.)

FBplatinum

SARS are less transmissible, it is with it stop by himself.
The problem with the COVID-19 is the transmission "rate".
Even we stop it now, it have already spread intl to much. We will put a hold for some time, but same a seasonal flu, it will come back.
The biggest question right now...
It is better to catch it NOW when your health is good, and self quarantine yourself the time your own immune system fight it and you become "immune" to it.
Or
Quarantine most of population now, and when it will come back (sooner or later), you will be more "old", your health will be less good at that time and the chance you get complication from it.

I seriously thinking if is not better to catch it NOW, when everything if off. And be immune for it before I get old and get badly hit later...

Jon_R

I wonder if all their donations in the past to different social causes will now be going to support virus research.

Mr. Tickets

So far, they are saying there is nothing to indicate that you build up an immunity to the virus, if you do contract Covad 19. Time will tell.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ne/2863776001/
While a protective antibody is generated in those who are infected, scientists are not yet sure whether that immunity will last for a short period of time, for years or for life. Some say the possibility of reinfection is very likely.

WillBarrett_68

this is exactly why things are closed, because irresponsible people would otherwise continue traveling and serving as transmission vectors.

pgh234

And responsible people will eventually realize that they can't hide in their homes for two years until a vaccine comes out. "Things" will reopen because people need to put food on the table

FBplatinum

A) Why they use "blood" from heal peoples to work on an anti virus ?
B) How you heal from the virus (if your system did not build a response (antibody/immunity)) ?

FBplatinum

Coronavirus patient shows encouraging immune system fightback

https://www.ft.com/content/70945888-...d-da70cff6e4d3

Can you get coronavirus twice? This Nobel prize winner is sceptical

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-...twice/12075878

CarmenOM

1) If you catch flu this year, are you immune to next year’s version? We don’t know if COVID-19 will give immunity to COVID-20.
2) Health care facilities are being overwhelmed by people getting it now.
3) If you don’t get it now there might be time for development of a vaccine or treatment.
4) If you make a choice to catch it now, you are also exposing others who don’t have a choice about isolating themselves.
5) Some of us are already “old.”

Revelate

Way too early to speculate on the mutation rate. I heard some talk recently that it's entirely possible this has been circulating a while: I'm not sure I agree with that but at some point there will probably be some bodies that are exhumed and checked to see if it was really "seasonal flu" that killed them.

Nobody knows, the numbers are all wrong if there really is a large asymptomatic vector too we aren't testing people who are healthy or even mildly sick... I had some sniffles and was coughing last week, I was self-isolating anyway and it's unlikely it was COVID-19 but it was something.

Market and everything else is trying to function in the absence of information which is why response has been so inconsistent. As pgh234 correctly pointed out upthread I'm looking at this as my life has to go on, and so I'm getting on with it just my own social plans are delayed by a few months but that's life. $&@# happens.

FBplatinum

If is a Covid-20, than it will be a different virus, in this case your vaccine/treatment will be useless... (#1 & #3)
If you are in good health, you did not need to get in the health care "system", just stay home. (#2)
As I write... "and self quarantine yourself", my house are in a remote area and it is nobody near me (around 2,000ft, before the next house), and I live alone (only with my cat). In this case I put NO ONE in risk... (#4 & #5).
I understand what I write, can not be done by everyone...

nrr

China seems to be "clear"--they must be doing something right,

cmd320

Or they're cooking the books.

LondonElite

It's just a matter of time before the second wave hits there (and elsewhere).

vincentharris

Nothing because whatever they offer will be short lived and 100% benefit DL and 0% benefit the customer/employees of DL. Loyalty at ANY airline is a joke (except for some of the Asian carriers like CX) and is completely a one way street. DL only cares about the value of a specific ticket (i.e. a $10k D1 round trip flight that someone might only take once a year versus say someone who consistently spends $25k + per year at DL) and until they change that mentality nothing will be different.

Also why is a DM saying this and not just go fly someone else? Thats the luxury you have of living in a super fortress hub where you literally have no other choice (unless connecting on 99.999999999999999% of flights sounds fun)