Lounge access clarification
#1
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Lounge access clarification
Hi, just looking for clarification.
If on a business ticket do you still get access / no access to the lounge. Forgive my ignorance but I thought all business class tickets afford you access to the lounge..... any airlines that I have flown?
I purchased an upgrade to business class from MSP to YWG( I know super short ). I went up to the desk and she said I either need the credit card or a member? no biggie for this layover but just surprised me.
So, I’m looking at going to Colombia on delta business - I would have no access to the Delta lounge?
If on a business ticket do you still get access / no access to the lounge. Forgive my ignorance but I thought all business class tickets afford you access to the lounge..... any airlines that I have flown?
I purchased an upgrade to business class from MSP to YWG( I know super short ). I went up to the desk and she said I either need the credit card or a member? no biggie for this layover but just surprised me.
So, I’m looking at going to Colombia on delta business - I would have no access to the Delta lounge?
#2
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Domestic business class does not include SkyClub access. I believe there was a mega-thread on this, but I can't locate it easily right now. International business class does include SkyClub or partner lounge access.
#3
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Delta doesn't really have a "business class". Delta One gets lounge access and is Delta's version of business class and is flown on long haul international and some domestic transcon routes. Delta "First Class" which is flown domestically, and to Canada, Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean and parts of Northern South America does not get lounge access. ATL-BOG has Delta One service and thus you will get lounge access with that flight. This route just recently switched from First Class to Delta One -- https://news.delta.com/delta-introdu...ice-year-round
If you book on delta.com, it will tell you whether your flight is First Class or Delta One. Third party booking sites might not distinguish the two.
If you book on delta.com, it will tell you whether your flight is First Class or Delta One. Third party booking sites might not distinguish the two.
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#4
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Ok. Thank You...…...so in a nutshell a Business Class ticket from MSP to YWG does not qualify. Is it fair to say then that if you are purchasing a ticket that says Delta One you will have access, period. I believe the flights I am looking at for Colombia are on Delta One. Well, I should say the transfer in Atlanta to Bogota is on Delta One but I will assume the flight from YWG > MSP and MSP > ATL are only business. I will double check. It's the layover coming back in ATL or MSP that I would have liked but it looks as though that will not be the case.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
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The rules are incredibly simple and published on DL's website. For access based on DL travel and class of service:
When traveling on Delta:
o Customers traveling on a domestic Delta One flight
o Customers traveling in Delta One on an international Delta flight or on a domestic flight connecting to/from a same-day international Delta One flight.
That's it. No need to summarize, interpret, or check anything else.
OP is not in D1 so he does not get access.
When traveling on Delta:
o Customers traveling on a domestic Delta One flight
o Customers traveling in Delta One on an international Delta flight or on a domestic flight connecting to/from a same-day international Delta One flight.
That's it. No need to summarize, interpret, or check anything else.
OP is not in D1 so he does not get access.
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Ok. Thank You...…...so in a nutshell a Business Class ticket from MSP to YWG does not qualify. Is it fair to say then that if you are purchasing a ticket that says Delta One you will have access, period. I believe the flights I am looking at for Colombia are on Delta One. Well, I should say the transfer in Atlanta to Bogota is on Delta One but I will assume the flight from YWG > MSP and MSP > ATL are only business. I will double check. It's the layover coming back in ATL or MSP that I would have liked but it looks as though that will not be the case.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
ATL-BOG is D1 now. If it's on the same itinerary, you will have lounge access at all connecting airports as well.
#7
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On AA Platinum and higher flying intl (even in Y) get access to Flagship Lounges but NOT Admirals Clubs. When DL opens FC lounges I wonder what the rules will be? And
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Basically AC is the business lounge if there's no FL at that location. (There's very few FL)
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??? If they get access to FL lounge they also can get into Admirals Club (AC) lounges. AA Plats and higher only get access when traveling international or domestic on JFK-LAX/SFO. However its doesnt matter if it's a FL or AC. Oneworld partner elites that are Sapphire or Emerald get access to FL or AC regardless of international/ domestic.
Basically AC is the business lounge if there's no FL at that location. (There's very few FL)
Basically AC is the business lounge if there's no FL at that location. (There's very few FL)
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At this point, DL has made no indications they are going to open any Flagship style lounges. DL Gold and higher (Skyteam Elite Plus) get access to DL Sky Clubs when flying intl (except Caribbean) even in Y, so situation is somewhat similar on DL.
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Sort of OT. DL does not have a premium lounge like AA (Flagship) or UA (Polaris), or anything approaching AA's Flagship First Dining. Bottom line is that the DL rules are very clear and it is simple to figure out whether one has access based on membership, class of service, or status.
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Sort of OT. DL does not have a premium lounge like AA (Flagship) or UA (Polaris), or anything approaching AA's Flagship First Dining. Bottom line is that the DL rules are very clear and it is simple to figure out whether one has access based on membership, class of service, or status.
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It is not about consensus, it is about the published rules.
SkyTeam+ (not DL flight) have SC access in F/J to/from Canada (among other locations).
There is no provision providing access for SkyTeam+ on a DL-operated F/J flight to/from Canada.
SkyTeam+ (not DL flight) have SC access in F/J to/from Canada (among other locations).
There is no provision providing access for SkyTeam+ on a DL-operated F/J flight to/from Canada.
#15
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I have a co-worker who is DL Gold (so SkyTeam+) and at least in MSP he gets in to the SkyClubs on flights to Canada. Most recently this February.