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2018/2019 Rollover Discussion Thread
History of past years rollover dates (either in mass or began to post)
2023 started on January 3rd
2022 scheduled for January 2nd
2021 on January 3rd
2020 originally scheduled for January 6th, started posting on January 3rd.
2019 on January 7th (Monday, starting at mid-late morning in ATL)
2018 on January 8th
2017 on January 10th
2016 on January 12th
2015 on January 13th
2014 on January 14th
2013 on January 2nd
2012 on January 8th
2011 on January 5th
2010 on January 14th
History of past years rollover dates (either in mass or began to post)
2023 started on January 3rd
2022 scheduled for January 2nd
2021 on January 3rd
2020 originally scheduled for January 6th, started posting on January 3rd.
2019 on January 7th (Monday, starting at mid-late morning in ATL)
2018 on January 8th
2017 on January 10th
2016 on January 12th
2015 on January 13th
2014 on January 14th
2013 on January 2nd
2012 on January 8th
2011 on January 5th
2010 on January 14th
Delta MQM Reset/Rollover 2019-2022 Consolidated Discussion Thread
#181
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,897
Keep me honest here. PM with 90K rollover miles that posted yesterday. Historically have made use of the DL Reserve card for the MQM boost, but can't see much value in keeping it vs. trading down to the DL Platinum card to hit the spend waiver and lock in PM for '23. Other than the companion cert (which I've not used from this past year yet) and SkyClub access (which I get via the Amex Plat), seems like the smart choice would be to dip to the DL Platinum & save $300?
That's a great point/dynamic I hadn't considered. I guess on the other hand, those 5K MQM require me to spend an extra $5K on the Reserve card ($25K vs. $30K for the bonuses). That means I can't put that on a potentially more lucrative card for redeemable points, e.g. the Amex Plat or Gold...good food for thought though - do I value 5K MQM in a year I already have enough for Plat or not...thanks for the thoughts!
#182
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta PM, Hyatt Discoverist, Hertz PC
Posts: 2,303
So, question. I qualified for Silver last year on my own, but I was Gold last year on the extension from 2020 status. My rollover posted, but my 2022 status says "Silver." They're extending status another year, so should I be worried that for 2022 it says "silver" — or is this what everyone is seeing? At some point later in the month they'll input the extension. I'm only obsessing because I have a trip to Europe in March and the STE+ benefits are fairly significantly better than regular STE. Anyone help allay my concerns?
#183
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
IIRC there was discussion earlier in this forum that various forms of unearned status would not be extended, such as that earned solely through a status challenge. Could something like this apply to you.
My 2022 status (DM, via extension) has been showing correctly on the app for a month or two (although the app isn't recognizing 2023 GM via 2MM yet on the bar graphs).
My 2022 status (DM, via extension) has been showing correctly on the app for a month or two (although the app isn't recognizing 2023 GM via 2MM yet on the bar graphs).
#184
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Seattle
Programs: DL DM, Marriott Gold
Posts: 609
I think I'm understanding this correctly, but let me check with those of you who know this stuff so well. I just rolled-over 176,000 MQMs into 2022. Since I'm traveling far less than I used to, it is unlikely that I'll meet the MQD for Diamond during 2022, but I would very likely hit $25k of card spending, so would that mean I'd end up as a Platinum in 2023 with 101,000 (plus whatever 2022 MQMs I acquire) rollover MQMs for 2024?
#185
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,047
I think I'm understanding this correctly, but let me check with those of you who know this stuff so well. I just rolled-over 176,000 MQMs into 2022. Since I'm traveling far less than I used to, it is unlikely that I'll meet the MQD for Diamond during 2022, but I would very likely hit $25k of card spending, so would that mean I'd end up as a Platinum in 2023 with 101,000 (plus whatever 2022 MQMs I acquire) rollover MQMs for 2024?
#186
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: VPS
Programs: IHG Diamond, Delta PM, Hilton Gold, Accor Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 7,269
The perfesser had no status in 2021 and his MQMs haven't rolled over yet, I guess that's a different script to run than for the 2021 elites. (If I can get him the MQDs, I can get him at least SM this year.)
#187
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATL
Programs: DL GM, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,242
GM here, my rollover miles have posted, but my status for 2022 still says "SkyMiles Member." Anyone else not seeing their extended status reflected yet?
For more details, I organically earned Silver during 2019 for the 2020 year. In spring 2021 I did the status match challenge that would increase your level, bringing me to GM. (Alas I haven't hit the MQDs in either 2020 or 2021 to organically requalify for Silver). From my reading of the terms, it sounded like the Gold status would be extended, but even if I were wrong, then I would expect to see Silver extended. I'm assuming/hoping the extension is just being run in batches and hasn't gotten to me yet!
For more details, I organically earned Silver during 2019 for the 2020 year. In spring 2021 I did the status match challenge that would increase your level, bringing me to GM. (Alas I haven't hit the MQDs in either 2020 or 2021 to organically requalify for Silver). From my reading of the terms, it sounded like the Gold status would be extended, but even if I were wrong, then I would expect to see Silver extended. I'm assuming/hoping the extension is just being run in batches and hasn't gotten to me yet!
#188
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,070
GM here, my rollover miles have posted, but my status for 2022 still says "SkyMiles Member." Anyone else not seeing their extended status reflected yet?
For more details, I organically earned Silver during 2019 for the 2020 year. In spring 2021 I did the status match challenge that would increase your level, bringing me to GM. (Alas I haven't hit the MQDs in either 2020 or 2021 to organically requalify for Silver). From my reading of the terms, it sounded like the Gold status would be extended, but even if I were wrong, then I would expect to see Silver extended. I'm assuming/hoping the extension is just being run in batches and hasn't gotten to me yet!
For more details, I organically earned Silver during 2019 for the 2020 year. In spring 2021 I did the status match challenge that would increase your level, bringing me to GM. (Alas I haven't hit the MQDs in either 2020 or 2021 to organically requalify for Silver). From my reading of the terms, it sounded like the Gold status would be extended, but even if I were wrong, then I would expect to see Silver extended. I'm assuming/hoping the extension is just being run in batches and hasn't gotten to me yet!
Last edited by xliioper; Jan 4, 2022 at 8:33 pm
#189
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATL
Programs: DL GM, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,242
There have been a few other reports from people who did a match challenge prior to July 2021 and it appears this category of pax are not getting their status extended this year (based on Match Challenge status alone). This is what would normally happen if you did a challenge between July 2020 and June 2021 and did not earn status organically during 2021 for the 2022 status year. When they did the status extension in 2020, they specifically noted that those with Match Challenge status would have it extended. They didn't make any clarifying statements about those with Match Challenge status when the 2021 extension was announced.In the past, they haven't generally allowed someone who already has status to do a Match Challenge, and I suspect the systems are not setup to recognize your status prior to Match Challenge.
Of course I wouldn't be surprised if there's IT issues causing a hang up! Anyways, I'm happy for the rollover MQM for now, and I suppose I have some time to wait and see if anything changes with my 2022 status before contacting DL about it -- patience being a virtue and all that
#190
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Thanks, yes I did mine back in May. I recall that when the status extension was announced, there was some discussion about whether or not status gained from the Elevated Status Match Challenge would be extended (since most of us still got the "your status has been extended" emails). The current language on Delta's website now seems to indicate that it should be extended: "If you recently completed and met the published requirements in a challenge or promotion to earn Medallion Status, such as Reclaim My Status, or Status Match Challenge, your earned status through these programs will also be extended through January 31, 2023."
Of course I wouldn't be surprised if there's IT issues causing a hang up! Anyways, I'm happy for the rollover MQM for now, and I suppose I have some time to wait and see if anything changes with my 2022 status before contacting DL about it -- patience being a virtue and all that
Of course I wouldn't be surprised if there's IT issues causing a hang up! Anyways, I'm happy for the rollover MQM for now, and I suppose I have some time to wait and see if anything changes with my 2022 status before contacting DL about it -- patience being a virtue and all that
#191
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,070
Thanks, yes I did mine back in May. I recall that when the status extension was announced, there was some discussion about whether or not status gained from the Elevated Status Match Challenge would be extended (since most of us still got the "your status has been extended" emails). The current language on Delta's website now seems to indicate that it should be extended: "If you recently completed and met the published requirements in a challenge or promotion to earn Medallion Status, such as Reclaim My Status, or Status Match Challenge, your earned status through these programs will also be extended through January 31, 2023."
Of course I wouldn't be surprised if there's IT issues causing a hang up! Anyways, I'm happy for the rollover MQM for now, and I suppose I have some time to wait and see if anything changes with my 2022 status before contacting DL about it -- patience being a virtue and all that
Of course I wouldn't be surprised if there's IT issues causing a hang up! Anyways, I'm happy for the rollover MQM for now, and I suppose I have some time to wait and see if anything changes with my 2022 status before contacting DL about it -- patience being a virtue and all that
"Gold or Silver Medallion Status from another Member through Choice Benefits, Members currently enrolled in a Medallion Status challenge or promotion that have not yet met requirements or Centurion Card Members who are awarded complimentary Platinum Medallion Status will not be extended. "
#192
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATL
Programs: DL GM, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,242
Given DL's normal reluctance to grant status challenges to those who already hold some sort of DL status, this raises the question(in my mind at least) of whether you had a normal status challenge or perhaps one arranged by an employer with a corporate travel contract. The language you quote above about *published* requirements in a challenge or promotion would seem to suggest that only normal status challenges following published rules qualify for the extension.
Okay, I guess the issue here is what they mean by "recently". If you expand the detailed T&C's on the website, it would seem to contradict that language. Note the part about those with a Status Challenge --
"Gold or Silver Medallion Status from another Member through Choice Benefits, Members currently enrolled in a Medallion Status challenge or promotion that have not yet met requirements or Centurion Card Members who are awarded complimentary Platinum Medallion Status will not be extended. "
"Gold or Silver Medallion Status from another Member through Choice Benefits, Members currently enrolled in a Medallion Status challenge or promotion that have not yet met requirements or Centurion Card Members who are awarded complimentary Platinum Medallion Status will not be extended. "
#193
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
My interpretation is that a targeted promo is not published. YMMV.
#194
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: CHS
Programs: DL Diamond, WN A-List, Marriott Platinum Elite, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 685
Has anyone else had the following issue?
It almost seems as if the rollover posted too soon. I had a flight on a partner (Air France) on Dec 31 so it took a few days for the miles/MQMs to post. The rollover on my account had already posted and then I had MQMs post for Dec 31 so as it stands now, those MQM aren't counting at all.
Do I need to call Delta to fix this? Or might it resolve on it's own after a few days?
It almost seems as if the rollover posted too soon. I had a flight on a partner (Air France) on Dec 31 so it took a few days for the miles/MQMs to post. The rollover on my account had already posted and then I had MQMs post for Dec 31 so as it stands now, those MQM aren't counting at all.
Do I need to call Delta to fix this? Or might it resolve on it's own after a few days?
#195
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Has anyone else had the following issue?
It almost seems as if the rollover posted too soon. I had a flight on a partner (Air France) on Dec 31 so it took a few days for the miles/MQMs to post. The rollover on my account had already posted and then I had MQMs post for Dec 31 so as it stands now, those MQM aren't counting at all.
Do I need to call Delta to fix this? Or might it resolve on it's own after a few days?
It almost seems as if the rollover posted too soon. I had a flight on a partner (Air France) on Dec 31 so it took a few days for the miles/MQMs to post. The rollover on my account had already posted and then I had MQMs post for Dec 31 so as it stands now, those MQM aren't counting at all.
Do I need to call Delta to fix this? Or might it resolve on it's own after a few days?