Mileage credit for DL ticket stock, KL marketed and operated flights
Mar 27, 2019, 2:23 pm
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Mileage credit for DL ticket stock, KL marketed and operated flights
I have an unusual situation coming up and I’m coming to the experts..
I have an upcoming trip that I booked through my corporate portal. Below flights are marketed and operated by respective airlines:
KL686 MEX-AMS (Class Z)
KL1417 AMS-LYS (J)
AF7649 LYS-CDG (J)
AZ333 CDG-FCO (I)
AZ676 FCO-MEX (I)
I’m not sure how, but it was booked on 006 ticket stock. I’m used to similar itineraries being booked on KL or AF stock.
So my question is that since these flights are all marketed and operated by KL/AF/AZ, will I get partner earnings and MQM/MQD at 40% of mileage or will I earn as if I’m flying delta since it’s on 006 ticket stock.
The website seems to say to say that if it’s operated and marketed by partner, its partner earnings but it doesn’t explicitly mention if thats the case with 006 ticket stock.
Thanks for the guidance.
I have an upcoming trip that I booked through my corporate portal. Below flights are marketed and operated by respective airlines:
KL686 MEX-AMS (Class Z)
KL1417 AMS-LYS (J)
AF7649 LYS-CDG (J)
AZ333 CDG-FCO (I)
AZ676 FCO-MEX (I)
I’m not sure how, but it was booked on 006 ticket stock. I’m used to similar itineraries being booked on KL or AF stock.
So my question is that since these flights are all marketed and operated by KL/AF/AZ, will I get partner earnings and MQM/MQD at 40% of mileage or will I earn as if I’m flying delta since it’s on 006 ticket stock.
The website seems to say to say that if it’s operated and marketed by partner, its partner earnings but it doesn’t explicitly mention if thats the case with 006 ticket stock.
Thanks for the guidance.
Last edited by TechMarauder; Mar 27, 2019 at 3:11 pm
Jul 29, 2019, 8:54 pm
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Related question: for partner-marketed flights under 500 miles, does anyone know if you get MQDs based on the actual mileage or the 500 minimum? (I'm going to be close enough to the threshold that this might actually matter this year....)
EDIT: found the answer in another thread and, sadly, it's the lower actual mileage. Oh well.
EDIT: found the answer in another thread and, sadly, it's the lower actual mileage. Oh well.
Last edited by CKDGM; Jul 29, 2019 at 8:58 pm Reason: found the answer, added link
Sep 25, 2019, 5:45 am
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Wil appreciate any insights. Thanks!
Sep 25, 2019, 6:52 am
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Hi - I’m a newbie here, and in a similar situation. Just so that I understand: if the flight is operated by AF/KL, even if the ticket is starting with “006”, one will earn MQM, RDM etc. per partner arrangements? I just bought my tickets from JFK to NCE via Amex IAP in PE. Tickets are starting with “006”, but all flights are operated by AF.
Wil appreciate any insights. Thanks!
Wil appreciate any insights. Thanks!
Sep 25, 2019, 7:07 am
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Any eligible flight that is not Delta-marketed will earn miles according to these partner airline rules. For certain partners, earn will be determined based on marketing and ticketing carrier. [my highlighting]
Sep 25, 2019, 9:16 am
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The earning rules for each partner (listed by clicking on the partner name) have had the language removed. Ticketing carrier has zero to do with earning on DL anymore.
Sep 25, 2019, 9:25 am
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Sep 25, 2019, 11:19 am
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Hi - I’m a newbie here, and in a similar situation. Just so that I understand: if the flight is operated by AF/KL, even if the ticket is starting with “006”, one will earn MQM, RDM etc. per partner arrangements? I just bought my tickets from JFK to NCE via Amex IAP in PE. Tickets are starting with “006”, but all flights are operated by AF.
Wil appreciate any insights. Thanks!
Wil appreciate any insights. Thanks!
Sep 25, 2019, 9:04 pm
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AF operated flights would mean a CDG connection. If you're traveling in the summer, there's a very nice daily nonstop DL flight from JFK to NCE, although sometimes it's more expensive. If it's still within 24 hours, you might want to consider changing the ticket. For PE, DL versus AF seats and service have their pros and cons.
I think the new/updated AF A330s have a nice PE cabin.
Sep 25, 2019, 9:11 pm
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My *guess* is that the NCE flight will get PS fairly soon as it's a high yielding route.
However, for March there won't yet be the nonstop flight, which means that if you want PE, AF through CDG would be it as you don't want to add a connection and fly in the reverse direction to get DL PS, for example using the DTW-AMS nonstop. [MSP-CDG had PS on the DL 777 this summer, but there's been an aircraft change and I don't expect it to change back by March.]
However, for March there won't yet be the nonstop flight, which means that if you want PE, AF through CDG would be it as you don't want to add a connection and fly in the reverse direction to get DL PS, for example using the DTW-AMS nonstop. [MSP-CDG had PS on the DL 777 this summer, but there's been an aircraft change and I don't expect it to change back by March.]
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