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Old Feb 19, 19, 3:02 pm
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Winter Weather Advisory 2/20/19

I received notices by text and email that my travel to Europe through JFK might be impacted by inclement weather tomorrow. When I looked at rebooking online, every option I was shown also went through JFK!

I called Delta and spoke to a CSR who said I could be re-routed via DTW, but I didnít want to make the change without checking it out. I could not find the routing she told me about anywhere - on Deltaís website or partner airlines or Google Flights.

My question, then, is should I stick with the routing via JFK - is the risk of disruption significant? Right now I only have 1 hour for my connection.

Should I switch to flying via DTW on the mystery itinerary? The forecast there tomorrow calls for snow as well.

Shoukd I see if they can route me via ATL?

I have no status, so I dread the prospect of being stuck in a middle seat if I switch - but I suppose thatís better than being stuck at JFK.
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Old Feb 19, 19, 3:19 pm
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What's your routing?
Is there another later flight in JFK to your destination?
Can you change the domestic leg to give you more time to JFK?
Why wouldn't they give you the times and flight numbers?
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Old Feb 19, 19, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by njf1003 View Post
What's your routing?
Is there another later flight in JFK to your destination?
Can you change the domestic leg to give you more time to JFK?
Why wouldn't they give you the times and flight numbers?
There is a later flight from JFK, so that might be a possibility if I were to miss my original flight (or I could change to it).

i could change my domestic leg - but would give me 5 or 6 hours at JFK. Not thrilled about that.

The CSR gave me flight times (but not numbers) for the DTW routing but I canít find any flight with the arrival time in Europe she gave me.
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Old Feb 19, 19, 3:42 pm
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What is your point of origin and your European destination The group will have a difficult time commenting or advising without that information .
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Old Feb 19, 19, 4:35 pm
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Routing is ORF-MLA
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Originally Posted by Kamalaasaa View Post
The CSR gave me flight times (but not numbers) for the DTW routing but I canít find any flight with the arrival time in Europe she gave me.
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Routing is ORF-MLA
Forcing a DTW connection on ITA and using "alliance skyteam" comes up with various ORF-DTW-CDG-MLA possibilities so it's probably one of those?

EDIT: although it looks like that would involve a long layover and change of airport CDG -> ORY for the MLA segment, ugh.
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......it looks like that would involve a long layover and change of airport CDG -> ORY for the MLA segment, ugh.
Double ugh.
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Old Feb 19, 19, 5:53 pm
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I found what might be it: ORF-DTW-AMS-FCO-MLA.

it arrives FCO at 9:10, and the CSR told me the arrival time at MLA was 9:00, so maybe she just didnít read far enough.

Layovers at AMS and FCO are just 1 hour each. Sounds like it would be cutting things awfully close.
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Old Feb 19, 19, 6:19 pm
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Sticking to DL/AF/KL/AZ flights there's just no good way to do that tomorrow (showing coach seats for sale) that avoids JFK. I don't see DL putting you on a non-alliance carrier for a weather waiver. However, if you miss a connection in AMS or FCO the rebooking options should be open to any interline carrier.
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Old Feb 19, 19, 9:27 pm
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Given the thread title, I wanted to also warn people that MSP is likely to be a big mess tomorrow, Wednesday February 21, 2019. They're expecting about 8" of snow starting before the crack of dawn and continuing well into the evening. I don't expect the airport to close, but the roads are likely to be horrible, so be sure to allow lots and lots of time to get yourself to/from the airport. Both morning and evening rush hours are predicted to be awful, most schools in the state will be closed, and employees are being advised to work from home if at all possible.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
Given the thread title, I wanted to also warn people that MSP is likely to be a big mess tomorrow, Wednesday February 21, 2019. They're expecting about 8" of snow starting before the crack of dawn and continuing well into the evening. I don't expect the airport to close, but the roads are likely to be horrible, so be sure to allow lots and lots of time to get yourself to/from the airport. Both morning and evening rush hours are predicted to be awful, most schools in the state will be closed, and employees are being advised to work from home if at all possible.
Agree. That plus the 3-5Ē in DC caused me to fly home to MSP tonight.
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Old Feb 19, 19, 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
Given the thread title, I wanted to also warn people that MSP is likely to be a big mess tomorrow, Wednesday February 21, 2019. They're expecting about 8" of snow starting before the crack of dawn and continuing well into the evening. I don't expect the airport to close, but the roads are likely to be horrible, so be sure to allow lots and lots of time to get yourself to/from the airport. Both morning and evening rush hours are predicted to be awful, most schools in the state will be closed, and employees are being advised to work from home if at all possible.
Based on the forecast for the midwest and northeast. ATL looks to be the only DL hub east of the Rockies that won't be a mess the next few days. However that is even questionable, given anything that touches NYC/DTW/MSP is going to be impacted, it will probably bleed into ATL operations too, just since many of those planes would normally be scheduled to route through there. I don't invision the next few days being pretty for anyone flying, unless you're sticking the west coast.
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Agree. That plus the 3-5Ē in DC caused me to fly home to MSP tonight.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme View Post
I don't see DL putting you on a non-alliance carrier for a weather waiver.
Surprise!

Just got a notice that I have been rebooked ORF-ATL-FRA-MLA, with the last leg on LH.

Iím thankful I can still get out today.
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Old Feb 20, 19, 7:13 am
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MSP is reporting thirty flight cancellations so far this morning, across all airlines.

It's snowing more than an inch per hour. There was already about an inch on the ground at the airport before 6 am and some places (no current official total at the airport) are reporting seven inches already this morning. The airport total is predicted to be 6-10", with most of it falling before noon, although the maximum amount was forecast to only be 7" less than 24 hours ago.

The roads are flowing better than I would have expected, probably because so many people are staying home today.

ADDED: It's now the second snowiest February in history for Minneapolis (with official readings done at MSP airport, but dating back to before there were airplanes) and we'll clearly surpass #1 within the next hour or two.

There's more snow predicted for the weekend and again early next week, although it isn't expected to get super cold.

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