Now boarding C+
May 23, 2018, 9:26 am
#16
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May 23, 2018, 10:17 am
#17
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I don't understand why that poster feels that PMs should get to board with PREM but I seriously doubt that would actually result in DMs getting separated from their bags. The bigger "downgrade" would be to their egos, they would feel less special if more people got to board with them.
May 23, 2018, 10:41 am
#18
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I don't understand why that poster feels that PMs should get to board with PREM but I seriously doubt that would actually result in DMs getting separated from their bags. The bigger "downgrade" would be to their egos, they would feel less special if more people got to board with them.
May 23, 2018, 10:59 am
#19
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I like boarding PREM. Of course, I typically fly F/J, so status doesn't play into it. No reason to further dilute DM by offering current DM-only benefits to lower tiers. That's the whole reason behind "status."
May 23, 2018, 11:06 am
#20
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I agree. But boarding C+ before Sky is a dilution of status too.
May 23, 2018, 11:14 am
#21
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I agree, somewhat, but it's clear (and was also discussed in another thread a few weeks back) that this has nothing to do with the boarding process, but rather to enhance the perceived value of C+ and drive upgrade revenue for DL. Also, most PM's and certainly all DMs will, more often than not, receive UGs to C+ or better. So in that case, it'll actually be a benefit for sub-DM medallion holders.
May 23, 2018, 11:59 am
#24
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Of all the things that could and should be complained about (i.e. decrease in the quality of meals), this is just being overdramatic. I really don't understand why everyone is getting so bent out of shape over this. On nearly all flights, there is significant overlap between C+ and SP customers, so most passengers will see no difference in the timing of when they board. As far as bin space goes, the math is still the same (Prem+sky=Prem+C++Sky), so I am not really sure why people think they might be less likely to have bin space. In fact, it may help people be closer to their bag since, C+ bags will be more confined to the C+ section since there will be fewer people boarding at the same time taking that space.
May 23, 2018, 12:03 pm
#25
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Of all the things that could and should be complained about (i.e. decrease in the quality of meals), this is just being overdramatic. I really don't understand why everyone is getting so bent out of shape over this. On nearly all flights, there is significant overlap between C+ and SP customers, so most passengers will see no difference in the timing of when they board. As far as bin space goes, the math is still the same (Prem+sky=Prem+C++Sky), so I am not really sure why people think they might be less likely to have bin space. In fact, it may help people be closer to their bag since, C+ bags will be more confined to the C+ section since there will be fewer people boarding at the same time taking that space.
May 23, 2018, 12:10 pm
#27
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flying DCA -MSP right. Is ans there are 44 people on the UG list with 0 F available. Standing next to a DM who is number 19 on that last. So on some flights the answer is a lot. This is on a A320 with 160 total seats.
May 23, 2018, 12:20 pm
#28
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Of all the things that could and should be complained about (i.e. decrease in the quality of meals), this is just being overdramatic. I really don't understand why everyone is getting so bent out of shape over this. On nearly all flights, there is significant overlap between C+ and SP customers, so most passengers will see no difference in the timing of when they board. As far as bin space goes, the math is still the same (Prem+sky=Prem+C++Sky), so I am not really sure why people think they might be less likely to have bin space. In fact, it may help people be closer to their bag since, C+ bags will be more confined to the C+ section since there will be fewer people boarding at the same time taking that space.
May 23, 2018, 12:49 pm
#29
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Some benefits of GM or higher:
F/C+ upgrades, preferred seating, waived bag fees, waived SDC/SDS fees, priority checkin/boarding/baggage handling/phone lines/security lines, lounge access traveling intl.
Of these benefits, if DL were to make a slight adjustment, in which a negative impact is perceived but not real, which benefit is most inconsequential? To me its boarding. I see this as a benefit because I will likely be seated closer to my bag, which is a lot better than now when a few P.O.'ed elites drop their bags in the C+ bins on their way to the back because they are upset they didn't get upgraded. Save your effort and whining for something that is actually material.
F/C+ upgrades, preferred seating, waived bag fees, waived SDC/SDS fees, priority checkin/boarding/baggage handling/phone lines/security lines, lounge access traveling intl.
Of these benefits, if DL were to make a slight adjustment, in which a negative impact is perceived but not real, which benefit is most inconsequential? To me its boarding. I see this as a benefit because I will likely be seated closer to my bag, which is a lot better than now when a few P.O.'ed elites drop their bags in the C+ bins on their way to the back because they are upset they didn't get upgraded. Save your effort and whining for something that is actually material.
May 23, 2018, 12:54 pm
#30
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If FC is called separately from PREM, then DL Zone 1 is already the fourth to board, and if C+ is added, it makes Zone 1 fifth.
