Deadhead crew boarding as pre-boards?
#61
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They become really, really important to you if you are on the connecting flight that crew is working, and you have to wait for the crew to go to baggage claim and get their gate checked bags. Get over yourselves. Crew IS more-important than you in A LOT of cases. Delta can operate a flight without you or by compensating you to go away. Same can't be said for crew in many cases.
#62
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They become really, really important to you if you are on the connecting flight that crew is working, and you have to wait for the crew to go to baggage claim and get their gate checked bags. Get over yourselves. Crew IS more-important than you in A LOT of cases. Delta can operate a flight without you or by compensating you to go away. Same can't be said for crew in many cases.
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#66
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I've also seen a large number of crew members, deadheading or otherwise, bringing massively oversized bags on... In particular, I tend to notice when my jacket gets crushed when they try to ram their giant suitcases into the closet. There is absolutely no reason they can't gate check and have their bags brought out to the jetway after everyone deplanes (except for maybe unions ).
#67
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Let's be be more realistic though: Crew should board early-ish (hence why I board in SKY). This is after Pre boards, D1/F, but before basic Y. If a bag needs to be bumped/checked, let it be a Y pax in Zone 3. Don't inconvenience crew or premium pax. Personally, when I travel for pleasure as a revenue pax, I rarely take a carry-on that can't fit under my seat and check the rest. I hate lugging around a suitcase for a living, and enjoy it being automatically transferred for me when flying for pleasure.
#68
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Keep telling yourself that. Crew bags WILL trump the highest paying D1 ticket if absolutely necessary. If my bag as a crew member doesn't get on the flight, neither do I, and then another flight down the line is affected.
Let's be be more realistic though: Crew should board early-ish (hence why I board in SKY). This is after Pre boards, D1/F, but before basic Y. If a bag needs to be bumped/checked, let it be a Y pax in Zone 3. Don't inconvenience crew or premium pax. Personally, when I travel for pleasure as a revenue pax, I rarely take a carry-on that can't fit under my seat and check the rest. I hate lugging around a suitcase for a living, and enjoy it being automatically transferred for me when flying for pleasure.
Let's be be more realistic though: Crew should board early-ish (hence why I board in SKY). This is after Pre boards, D1/F, but before basic Y. If a bag needs to be bumped/checked, let it be a Y pax in Zone 3. Don't inconvenience crew or premium pax. Personally, when I travel for pleasure as a revenue pax, I rarely take a carry-on that can't fit under my seat and check the rest. I hate lugging around a suitcase for a living, and enjoy it being automatically transferred for me when flying for pleasure.
#69
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As someone above mentioned, this is NOT an option when traveling mainline. If you are on an RJ flight, then yes, valet is a good option. I've done that plenty of times. But mainline ops do NOT valet check crew bags as part of normal SOP. Another issue is time. When we are deadheading, we often hit the ground running.
#70
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I don't see how this could even remotely offend you. Airline crew often work 3-4 day (or longer) trips during which they have to have clothes to wear in their crew bags. What would happen if crew boarded last, had to gate check their bags, and then the bags were lost? This would be incredibly disruptive for the remaining portion of their trip.
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Time. Bags that are gate checked don't magically appear at the end of the jet bridge when the first people deplane. If the crew has a quick connection time at their destination, every minute counts. They can't just waltz on a flight they are working right before the door closes.
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Time. Bags that are gate checked don't magically appear at the end of the jet bridge when the first people deplane. If the crew has a quick connection time at their destination, every minute counts. They can't just waltz on a flight they are working right before the door closes.
Also mainline, under line, overline, regional, or any other flight if airlines wanted to they could have someone carry the crew bags up immediately via valet. No one is saying offer that option to passengers on mainline just crew.
I don't dispute the need to get to work on your next flight but so are the paying passengers on board. Is the airlines business more important than the paying customers business?
#74
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As someone above mentioned, this is NOT an option when traveling mainline. If you are on an RJ flight, then yes, valet is a good option. I've done that plenty of times. But mainline ops do NOT valet check crew bags as part of normal SOP. Another issue is time. When we are deadheading, we often hit the ground running.
Time. Bags that are gate checked don't magically appear at the end of the jet bridge when the first people deplane. If the crew has a quick connection time at their destination, every minute counts. They can't just waltz on a flight they are working right before the door closes.
Guys. We're talking about someone going down the jetway stairs, grabbing a few bags and bringing them back up the stairs. They're not trekking across Himalayas here
#75
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But my meeting or event where every minute counts that I need to get to is not important? Seems kinda one sided.
Also mainline, under line, overline, regional, or any other flight if airlines wanted to they could have someone carry the crew bags up immediately via valet. No one is saying offer that option to passengers on mainline just crew.
I don't dispute the need to get to work on your next flight but so are the paying passengers on board. Is the airlines business more important than the paying customers business?
Also mainline, under line, overline, regional, or any other flight if airlines wanted to they could have someone carry the crew bags up immediately via valet. No one is saying offer that option to passengers on mainline just crew.
I don't dispute the need to get to work on your next flight but so are the paying passengers on board. Is the airlines business more important than the paying customers business?