Sep 17, 2018, 11:55 am
Last edit by: N515CR
Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
777 D1 Suite PS + Comfort+ retrofit consolidated thread
Jul 2, 2018, 10:36 am
#181
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UA has J in a 1-1-1 configuration on their 767s, don’t see why this would be a problem. Earlier you stated that D1 would take a huge cut in capacity if the suites are installed, but DL has already shown they don’t care about J seat counts as the 777s, 763s, and 350s took a loss in seat count from their predecessors.
Jul 2, 2018, 7:24 pm
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UA has J in a 1-1-1 configuration on their 767s, don’t see why this would be a problem. Earlier you stated that D1 would take a huge cut in capacity if the suites are installed, but DL has already shown they don’t care about J seat counts as the 777s, 763s, and 350s took a loss in seat count from their predecessors.
Jul 6, 2018, 4:57 am
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However I believe the UA seat doesn't extend past the length of bulkhead. Yes, DL has cut back on J on its bigger planes. However the majority of 767 never had high number of J seats to begin with. I could understand the high density 767s getting J reduced to the same as the low density. Just don't see and so far there's been nothing at all suggested about 767 getting suites. In fact it's been constantly stated only the A350 and 777 will get suites. Orders would be needing to be placed now since first 767 refreshes start next year. Thus I think would've heard already that 767 was getting suites. Heck, new A330 that were just delivered in last year don't have suites.
Jul 6, 2018, 11:21 am
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DL J cabins keep getting smaller and smaller. Most 763s are now 26J with the rest to be converted soon or be retired, the 764s are supposedly getting D1 suites which will definitely lower the # of J seats, and the 777s have gone from 44J to 37J and now all the way to just 28J. I definitely think DL is trying harder than ever to make sure every pax in D1 is paying and not using an instrument UG or having non-rev parties up in D1.
Jul 7, 2018, 2:56 am
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(still, your point is well-taken ... that is a great seat and a great config for that particular airplane!)
Jul 7, 2018, 3:38 am
#186
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Also . United 777 has 60 Biz seats.. DL ... 28??
I still don't understand why people give DL their business? What is it? The flights are never on time, the service is bad, the Skymiles program sucks, the food onboard is worse than UA or AA.. I just don't see what anyone sees in this airline.
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Jul 7, 2018, 9:15 am
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I still don't understand why people give DL their business? What is it? The flights are never on time False, the service is bad,sometimes yes, sometimes no. the Skymiles program sucks,Neutral, if you are flexible with travel can usually get pretty good value. the food onboard is worse than UA or AA..False, it’s airplane food, it’s all pretty bad. I just don't see what anyone sees in this airline.Maybe you have not looked hard enough?
Jul 7, 2018, 9:47 am
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I have a 100% upgrade % since switching to United and enjoying it! Ill glady pay $200 more each way over he pacific for the much better upgrade chances, better setas (even the old ones), better food, better service (DELTA IS OVER-RATED with crap service) and a better program. DL is the epitome of corporations who take clear advantage of you and create a false image of who they are. Delta is the biggest bait and switch airline in the US.
Also . United 777 has 60 Biz seats.. DL ... 28??
I still don't understand why people give DL their business? What is it? The flights are never on time, the service is bad, the Skymiles program sucks, the food onboard is worse than UA or AA.. I just don't see what anyone sees in this airline.
Also . United 777 has 60 Biz seats.. DL ... 28??
I still don't understand why people give DL their business? What is it? The flights are never on time, the service is bad, the Skymiles program sucks, the food onboard is worse than UA or AA.. I just don't see what anyone sees in this airline.
Okay
Jul 7, 2018, 10:14 am
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My understanding is there is some sort of exclusivity agreement between Zodiac (the manufacturer of the new "Polaris" Polaris seats) and United, where Zodiac can't offer that seat to any other carrier for a period of 5 years. I googled and searched for this, but turned up empty-handed, so maybe I saw it on a TV or online video report instead. Maybe if someone can find a reference to that, they can post it. I am not sure if the 763ER enhanced seats are covered under that exclusivity agreement or not ... nor if there would be patent issues if Delta found another manufacturer to mimic that seat.
(still, your point is well-taken ... that is a great seat and a great config for that particular airplane!)
(still, your point is well-taken ... that is a great seat and a great config for that particular airplane!)
"United has exclusive North American rights to the layout, while the new Zodiac Optima will be available to airlines in the rest of the world."
Last edited by M2578Z; Jul 7, 2018 at 10:32 am Reason: Added link
Jul 7, 2018, 10:24 am
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Jul 7, 2018, 10:33 am
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My experience is Delta = always late. Almost Every ATL- Anywhere Flight I had in Q1 was late . DFW-LAX was late 4/5 times.
United screwed up the Polaris rollout. But I really like their old Continental planes. Those seats are comfy and I find the food in Polaris blows Delta out of the water. United Polaris lounges are now popping up and they are amazing. Delta has nothing when it comes to lounges. Once the 777s are refit, I guess they won’t have many business class passengers either. The Delta One food is just gross , and the service onboard Delta in D1 doesn’t come close to United. I’ve had nothing but good service on Polaris old seats and new. I also earn miles that can be used at good value. Skymiles /Skyteam is trash. I disliked all my Sky team flights overseas , especially the lounges. Delta 777s now are the worst business class products of the US carriers. I’ll take the United 2-4-2 over the herringbone. I sleep really well and the padding is great , nice big screens as well.
This is i I guess what makes the world go round.
United screwed up the Polaris rollout. But I really like their old Continental planes. Those seats are comfy and I find the food in Polaris blows Delta out of the water. United Polaris lounges are now popping up and they are amazing. Delta has nothing when it comes to lounges. Once the 777s are refit, I guess they won’t have many business class passengers either. The Delta One food is just gross , and the service onboard Delta in D1 doesn’t come close to United. I’ve had nothing but good service on Polaris old seats and new. I also earn miles that can be used at good value. Skymiles /Skyteam is trash. I disliked all my Sky team flights overseas , especially the lounges. Delta 777s now are the worst business class products of the US carriers. I’ll take the United 2-4-2 over the herringbone. I sleep really well and the padding is great , nice big screens as well.
This is i I guess what makes the world go round.
Jul 7, 2018, 10:35 am
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Jul 7, 2018, 10:39 am
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My experience is Delta = always late. Almost Every ATL- Anywhere Flight I had in Q1 was late . DFW-LAX was late 4/5 times.
United screwed up the Polaris rollout. But I really like their old Continental planes. Those seats are comfy and I find the food in Polaris blows Delta out of the water. United Polaris lounges are now popping up and they are amazing. Delta has nothing when it comes to lounges. Once the 777s are refit, I guess they won’t have many business class passengers either. The Delta One food is just gross , and the service onboard Delta in D1 doesn’t come close to United. I’ve had nothing but good service on Polaris old seats and new. I also earn miles that can be used at good value. Skymiles /Skyteam is trash. I disliked all my Sky team flights overseas , especially the lounges. Delta 777s now are the worst business class products of the US carriers. I’ll take the United 2-4-2 over the herringbone. I sleep really well and the padding is great , nice big screens as well.
This is i I guess what makes the world go round.
United screwed up the Polaris rollout. But I really like their old Continental planes. Those seats are comfy and I find the food in Polaris blows Delta out of the water. United Polaris lounges are now popping up and they are amazing. Delta has nothing when it comes to lounges. Once the 777s are refit, I guess they won’t have many business class passengers either. The Delta One food is just gross , and the service onboard Delta in D1 doesn’t come close to United. I’ve had nothing but good service on Polaris old seats and new. I also earn miles that can be used at good value. Skymiles /Skyteam is trash. I disliked all my Sky team flights overseas , especially the lounges. Delta 777s now are the worst business class products of the US carriers. I’ll take the United 2-4-2 over the herringbone. I sleep really well and the padding is great , nice big screens as well.
This is i I guess what makes the world go round.
Jul 7, 2018, 10:45 am
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My experience is Delta = always late. Almost Every ATL- Anywhere Flight I had in Q1 was late . DFW-LAX was late 4/5 times.
United screwed up the Polaris rollout. But I really like their old Continental planes. Those seats are comfy and I find the food in Polaris blows Delta out of the water. United Polaris lounges are now popping up and they are amazing. Delta has nothing when it comes to lounges. Once the 777s are refit, I guess they won’t have many business class passengers either. The Delta One food is just gross , and the service onboard Delta in D1 doesn’t come close to United. I’ve had nothing but good service on Polaris old seats and new. I also earn miles that can be used at good value. Skymiles /Skyteam is trash. I disliked all my Sky team flights overseas , especially the lounges. Delta 777s now are the worst business class products of the US carriers. I’ll take the United 2-4-2 over the herringbone. I sleep really well and the padding is great , nice big screens as well.
This is i I guess what makes the world go round.
United screwed up the Polaris rollout. But I really like their old Continental planes. Those seats are comfy and I find the food in Polaris blows Delta out of the water. United Polaris lounges are now popping up and they are amazing. Delta has nothing when it comes to lounges. Once the 777s are refit, I guess they won’t have many business class passengers either. The Delta One food is just gross , and the service onboard Delta in D1 doesn’t come close to United. I’ve had nothing but good service on Polaris old seats and new. I also earn miles that can be used at good value. Skymiles /Skyteam is trash. I disliked all my Sky team flights overseas , especially the lounges. Delta 777s now are the worst business class products of the US carriers. I’ll take the United 2-4-2 over the herringbone. I sleep really well and the padding is great , nice big screens as well.
This is i I guess what makes the world go round.