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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 11:27 am
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Fare classes on Delta

Can someone please explain what fare class (O) is on Delta?
Is this specific to any cabin class?
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Tynewydd Export
Can someone please explain what fare class (O) is on Delta?
Is this specific to any cabin class?
It's a business class award fare.
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 12:07 pm
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Thank you.
So it would be Delta One for transatlantic?
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 12:15 pm
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Yes. You didn't go through a broker and buy an award ticket, did you?
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 12:25 pm
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No, booked direct with Virgin, flight out of UK is Virgin UC but return with Delta currently shows Main Cabin (O).
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 2:24 pm
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O would be a main cabin fare if it is a VS coded revenue fare. Presuming this is an award ticket and the flight is DL coded.
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 3:55 pm
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Here is an old list. Mostly still good:

Fare Domestic Upg. Pecking Order
F First Class 1
J NA 1
C NA 2
P Discounted First 2
A Discounted First 3
D Discounted Business 3
G First Class 4
I Discounted Business 4
Z Discounted Business 5
B Yes 6
Y Yes* 6
M Yes 7
S Yes* 8
H Yes 9
Q Yes* 10
K Yes 11
L Yes* 12
U Yes* 13
T Yes* 14
X Yes* 15
V Yes* 16
E No 17
N See Notes NA
O NA NA
R Booked Award NA
W Premium NA
W+ Comfort+ NA
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 4:11 pm
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What does SW fare mean. Im sure it normal but just curious
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Old Nov 3, 2017 | 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by mr_hoff
Here is an old list. Mostly still good:

Fare Domestic Upg. Pecking Order
F First Class 1
J NA 1
C NA 2
P Discounted First 2
A Discounted First 3
D Discounted Business 3
G First Class 4
I Discounted Business 4
Z Discounted Business 5
B Yes 6
Y Yes* 6
M Yes 7
S Yes* 8
H Yes 9
Q Yes* 10
K Yes 11
L Yes* 12
U Yes* 13
T Yes* 14
X Yes* 15
V Yes* 16
E No 17
N See Notes NA
O NA NA
R Booked Award NA
W Premium NA
W+ Comfort+ NA

S is no longer a revenue fare. It was recently moved to an award fare class. W is no longer used for Premium Economy fares. DL now uses P/A/G fare classes for Premium Economy (which are exclusively international), in addition to using them for discount domestic first class.
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by Tynewydd Export
No, booked direct with Virgin, flight out of UK is Virgin UC but return with Delta currently shows Main Cabin (O).
Does your ticket show a DL flight number or a VS (codeshare) flight number for the O segment? Can you see a seat map or pick a seat?
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by Tynewydd Export
No, booked direct with Virgin, flight out of UK is Virgin UC but return with Delta currently shows Main Cabin (O).
It reads to me that OP has VS O class on return, not DL O class. It is main cabin. He/she is asking in the wrong forum.
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by TerryK
It reads to me that OP has VS O class on return, not DL O class. It is main cabin. He/she is asking in the wrong forum.
No, awards are booked as prime flight number. Thus since OP is on DL metal, he's booked on a DL flight number and in O class. This is Delta 1.

The VS system is confused and labels it Main cabin since O would be main cabin if booked as a VS flight.
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 4:47 pm
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Fare Class A

I booked a ticket in Premium Economy with Air France that includes domestic codeshare flights on DL Metal. On my LAX-PDX leg it lists the fare class as "A" (with an AF Flight#). When I look up that codes it shows as First Class, yet I'm only allowed to pick a C+ seat. Should I be able to fly FC on this leg?
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Asquared1
I booked a ticket in Premium Economy with Air France that includes domestic codeshare flights on DL Metal. On my LAX-PDX leg it lists the fare class as "A" (with an AF Flight#). When I look up that codes it shows as First Class, yet I'm only allowed to pick a C+ seat. Should I be able to fly FC on this leg?
The answer might depend on whether A class is available for the DL operated flight. Check EF or try a dummy booking (advanced search by fare class, A or higher on delta.dumb), although whether the FC cabin seems to be full will give some imperfect indication of whether DL is likely to be selling A tickets for the segments.
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Asquared1
I booked a ticket in Premium Economy with Air France that includes domestic codeshare flights on DL Metal. On my LAX-PDX leg it lists the fare class as "A" (with an AF Flight#). When I look up that codes it shows as First Class, yet I'm only allowed to pick a C+ seat. Should I be able to fly FC on this leg?
Fare classes are specific to marketing carrier, not operating carrier. Since it is AF marketed, no you are not entitled to FC on the flight.
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