Question about Sky Miles earning system
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Question about Sky Miles earning system
Haven’t flown Delta much but recently had 2 round trip flights, MSP>>SNA on a Delta ticket for which I got 2790 “base” miles and the point calculation method quoted is “R = Mileage earned based on ticket price.” Then I flew Delta & Air France MSP>>MRS on a KLM ticket (074____) for which I received 2698 base miles, system quoted is “D = Mileage earned based on distance flown.”
So I get more “base miles” for the much shorter flights? The SNA trip did cost more than the MRS trip.
Is the D designation for the MRS trip correct? If the round trip is 9558 miles how can it earn only 2698 base miles if calculated on distance flown? Delta seems to have calculated the Delta MSP>>AMS segments at 25% of miles flown, and the Air France segments at 50% of miles flown, unless I have that wrong. Is all this in a table somewhere? The Delta website is of little help and there’s a lot of medallion talk which I don’t need and confuses things. I'll never be medallion anything. Seems like I should get 100% of the miles flown on Delta deposited in my Skymiles account. Is there a penalty for buying Delta tickets from the KLM website when flying Delta? Or am I penalized for having a very cheap ticket.
I thought Delta was going to a Southwest type points system based on $$, their system is much easier to understand.
So I get more “base miles” for the much shorter flights? The SNA trip did cost more than the MRS trip.
Is the D designation for the MRS trip correct? If the round trip is 9558 miles how can it earn only 2698 base miles if calculated on distance flown? Delta seems to have calculated the Delta MSP>>AMS segments at 25% of miles flown, and the Air France segments at 50% of miles flown, unless I have that wrong. Is all this in a table somewhere? The Delta website is of little help and there’s a lot of medallion talk which I don’t need and confuses things. I'll never be medallion anything. Seems like I should get 100% of the miles flown on Delta deposited in my Skymiles account. Is there a penalty for buying Delta tickets from the KLM website when flying Delta? Or am I penalized for having a very cheap ticket.
I thought Delta was going to a Southwest type points system based on $$, their system is much easier to understand.
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Partner earnings are listed here:
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../airlines.html
For the lower AF/KL fare classes, mileage earning can be as low 25% of actual miles for redeemable miles. The 100% mileage earning only applies to MQM's for Medallion status.
If you had purchased a DL 006 ticket, mileage earning would have been based on spend (5 miles/dollar for general member) regardless of carrier or flight coding. Also, a flight that is DL coded will earn based on spend. This is why your SNA trip earned based on spend.
Also, an 074 TATL ticket with all DL/KL segments now earns based on price instead of mileage. The inclusion of the AF segment is what caused DL to use mileage based earning.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../airlines.html
For the lower AF/KL fare classes, mileage earning can be as low 25% of actual miles for redeemable miles. The 100% mileage earning only applies to MQM's for Medallion status.
If you had purchased a DL 006 ticket, mileage earning would have been based on spend (5 miles/dollar for general member) regardless of carrier or flight coding. Also, a flight that is DL coded will earn based on spend. This is why your SNA trip earned based on spend.
Also, an 074 TATL ticket with all DL/KL segments now earns based on price instead of mileage. The inclusion of the AF segment is what caused DL to use mileage based earning.
Last edited by xliioper; Apr 20, 2017 at 10:44 am
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Delta has extremely clear earnings charts for all partners here. They are one of the best airlines in terms of ease of partner earning calculations.
If you need to know the distance between two airports, use gcmap.com
If you need to know the distance between two airports, use gcmap.com
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Delta has extremely clear earnings charts for all partners here. They are one of the best airlines in terms of ease of partner earning calculations.
If you need to know the distance between two airports, use gcmap.com
If you need to know the distance between two airports, use gcmap.com
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Unfortunately the fare classes for the MRS segments were not on the e-ticket and it's too late to look them up, but certainly could have been V, price was $340 plus taxes.
I guess what I missed was that flying on Delta may be calculated as a "partner" flight for Skymiles reasons if the ticket does not start 006. I guess I thought buying from AirFrance.com or KLM.com or Alitalia.com or delta.com would all be treated the same way.
I suppose I could have purchased on delta.com for $800 more for the same flights and got more Skymiles....
I guess what I missed was that flying on Delta may be calculated as a "partner" flight for Skymiles reasons if the ticket does not start 006. I guess I thought buying from AirFrance.com or KLM.com or Alitalia.com or delta.com would all be treated the same way.
I suppose I could have purchased on delta.com for $800 more for the same flights and got more Skymiles....
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Unfortunately the fare classes for the MRS segments were not on the e-ticket and it's too late to look them up, but certainly could have been V, price was $340 plus taxes.
I guess what I missed was that flying on Delta may be calculated as a "partner" flight for Skymiles reasons if the ticket does not start 006. I guess I thought buying from AirFrance.com or KLM.com or Alitalia.com or delta.com would all be treated the same way.
I suppose I could have purchased on delta.com for $800 more for the same flights and got more Skymiles....
I guess what I missed was that flying on Delta may be calculated as a "partner" flight for Skymiles reasons if the ticket does not start 006. I guess I thought buying from AirFrance.com or KLM.com or Alitalia.com or delta.com would all be treated the same way.
I suppose I could have purchased on delta.com for $800 more for the same flights and got more Skymiles....
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Unfortunately the fare classes for the MRS segments were not on the e-ticket and it's too late to look them up, but certainly could have been V, price was $340 plus taxes.
I guess what I missed was that flying on Delta may be calculated as a "partner" flight for Skymiles reasons if the ticket does not start 006. I guess I thought buying from AirFrance.com or KLM.com or Alitalia.com or delta.com would all be treated the same way.
I suppose I could have purchased on delta.com for $800 more for the same flights and got more Skymiles....
I guess what I missed was that flying on Delta may be calculated as a "partner" flight for Skymiles reasons if the ticket does not start 006. I guess I thought buying from AirFrance.com or KLM.com or Alitalia.com or delta.com would all be treated the same way.
I suppose I could have purchased on delta.com for $800 more for the same flights and got more Skymiles....
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Unfortunately the fare classes for the MRS segments were not on the e-ticket and it's too late to look them up, but certainly could have been V, price was $340 plus taxes.
I guess what I missed was that flying on Delta may be calculated as a "partner" flight for Skymiles reasons if the ticket does not start 006. I guess I thought buying from AirFrance.com or KLM.com or Alitalia.com or delta.com would all be treated the same way.
I suppose I could have purchased on delta.com for $800 more for the same flights and got more Skymiles....
I guess what I missed was that flying on Delta may be calculated as a "partner" flight for Skymiles reasons if the ticket does not start 006. I guess I thought buying from AirFrance.com or KLM.com or Alitalia.com or delta.com would all be treated the same way.
I suppose I could have purchased on delta.com for $800 more for the same flights and got more Skymiles....
Most of us would love 100% miles flown for everything, but those days are long gone and not coming back.
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It just never occurred to me that flying on Delta could be considered a partner flight by Delta's own miles program.
Actually, delta.com was charging about $1200 for the MRS tickets, so subtract $115 for taxes and fees leaves $1085 base fare x 5 = 5425 miles for a 006 ticket. But that means spending $745 more to get 2727 more miles, probably a poor financial decision.
I'm not following the "marketed" questions, don't know what that means.
Actually, delta.com was charging about $1200 for the MRS tickets, so subtract $115 for taxes and fees leaves $1085 base fare x 5 = 5425 miles for a 006 ticket. But that means spending $745 more to get 2727 more miles, probably a poor financial decision.
I'm not following the "marketed" questions, don't know what that means.
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It just never occurred to me that flying on Delta could be considered a partner flight by Delta's own miles program.
Actually, delta.com was charging about $1200 for the MRS tickets, so subtract $115 for taxes and fees leaves $1085 base fare x 5 = 5425 miles for a 006 ticket. But that means spending $745 more to get 2727 more miles, probably a poor financial decision.
Actually, delta.com was charging about $1200 for the MRS tickets, so subtract $115 for taxes and fees leaves $1085 base fare x 5 = 5425 miles for a 006 ticket. But that means spending $745 more to get 2727 more miles, probably a poor financial decision.
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