Are there really this many DMs?
Feb 27, 2017, 9:17 am
#16
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Georgia
Programs: DL DM/2MM
Posts: 1,037
I flew ATL-PHL on LUT fares regularly a few years ago, and I always got upgraded as a DM. So not sure what's happening, maybe bumped passengers from a previous flight?
I also fly ATL-PDX on LUT fares every few months. I have never gotten an UG on certain days of the week, even as a DM. So it also depends on the route and day/time.
I also fly ATL-PDX on LUT fares every few months. I have never gotten an UG on certain days of the week, even as a DM. So it also depends on the route and day/time.
Feb 27, 2017, 9:31 am
#17
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,394
I flew ATL-PHL on LUT fares regularly a few years ago, and I always got upgraded as a DM. So not sure what's happening, maybe bumped passengers from a previous flight?
I also fly ATL-PDX on LUT fares every few months. I have never gotten an UG on certain days of the week, even as a DM. So it also depends on the route and day/time.
I also fly ATL-PDX on LUT fares every few months. I have never gotten an UG on certain days of the week, even as a DM. So it also depends on the route and day/time.
Just as I'm sure there are DM's who rarely if ever get UG's because they fly the most common business routes, at the most common business times, and know about their travel well in advance giving them mostly VXT fares.
Feb 27, 2017, 9:58 am
#18
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: DL DM 1MM, AA PP
Posts: 81
I guess I have a similar question: Are there multiple levels of Diamond? For example, is it just the fare class that separates us? Or are there other factors involved that I don't know about? I'm having the same problem where I keep getting bumped down the list, but have been a DM for 3 years and met the spend last year and everything...
Thanks!
Thanks!
Feb 27, 2017, 10:15 am
#20
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,394
I guess I have a similar question: Are there multiple levels of Diamond? For example, is it just the fare class that separates us? Or are there other factors involved that I don't know about? I'm having the same problem where I keep getting bumped down the list, but have been a DM for 3 years and met the spend last year and everything...
Thanks!
Thanks!
You're most likely being bumped down the list by DM's on higher fare classes checking in later than you. Nothing nefarious but plenty of people don't check in until they are on the way/at the airport. A person doesn't show up on the upgrade list until they have checked in.
There are also some other things that come into play on upgrades, Reserve card, MM (maybe), corporate contract, and I think a few others.
Feb 27, 2017, 10:27 am
#21
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: OKC
Programs: DL DM/2.768MM, Global Entry, Titanium_Marriott, GHertz
Posts: 6,752
Feb 27, 2017, 10:52 am
#22
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: Fallen DL DM (PM) 2MM
Posts: 4,783
DM360 goes ahead of a regular DM, but I don't think there are all that many of them, and to get 360 it typically mean's your buying a lot of F/J outright.
You're most likely being bumped down the list by DM's on higher fare classes checking in later than you. Nothing nefarious but plenty of people don't check in until they are on the way/at the airport. A person doesn't show up on the upgrade list until they have checked in.
There are also some other things that come into play on upgrades, Reserve card, MM (maybe), corporate contract, and I think a few others.
You're most likely being bumped down the list by DM's on higher fare classes checking in later than you. Nothing nefarious but plenty of people don't check in until they are on the way/at the airport. A person doesn't show up on the upgrade list until they have checked in.
There are also some other things that come into play on upgrades, Reserve card, MM (maybe), corporate contract, and I think a few others.
Feb 27, 2017, 10:59 am
#23
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,461
This reminds of the DYKWIA passenger a few years ago who got on the plane and started quizzing everyone in First Class looking for 'proof' he was robbed of his first class upgrade. (Cowbell clanging all the time) The woman next to me looked at him and said "I am old and rich and I paid for this seat" LOL! FA finally forced Mr. DYKWIA back to his assigned seat and all the while he chanted "I am Diamond and I can't believe all those passengers outrank me" (At the time I was DM on a full fare ticket, yeah buddy I probably out ranked you LOL!)
Feb 27, 2017, 11:53 am
#24
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,880
Feb 27, 2017, 12:03 pm
#25
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 1,685
We had a newly minted DM at work, and he thought it was a big deal.
Our great leader polled the room, and asked everyone, "who's a Delta Diamond here?"
Every single hand went up in a room of 20+ and he felt deflated.
That particular trip, the Great Leader flew in 25B, newly minted DM in 10C, and I drove.
Our great leader polled the room, and asked everyone, "who's a Delta Diamond here?"
Every single hand went up in a room of 20+ and he felt deflated.
That particular trip, the Great Leader flew in 25B, newly minted DM in 10C, and I drove.
Feb 27, 2017, 12:44 pm
#26
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,946
I remembered that someone had a discussion/argument about this with Darth Chocolate a while back, and was going to say "I think it's inconclusive" and point you at that thread, but when I searched back, turns out it was you 
Feb 27, 2017, 1:18 pm
#27
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,880
I remembered that someone had a discussion/argument about this with Darth Chocolate a while back, and was going to say "I think it's inconclusive" and point you at that thread, but when I searched back, turns out it was you
Feb 27, 2017, 1:25 pm
#28
Join Date: May 2014
Location: PWM
Programs: Delta PM
Posts: 822
I once sat next to a 360 who told me he always jumps to the top of the list (and his companion as well) and this was before the newer change that the companion has the same status as primary on the same pnr. This was back in 2015 fwiw
Feb 27, 2017, 2:01 pm
#29
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: on the path to perdition
Programs: Delta, United
Posts: 4,786
I dropped in status for this year. I play the game to see far down the list I can be. I get bonus points if I am so far down on the list that my name does not show up on the GID boards. Sunday was a bonus point day :-).
Feb 27, 2017, 2:51 pm
#30
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