Double Diversion Trip Report
Sep 23, 2016, 8:38 am
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Double Diversion Trip Report
Trip Report (New One For Me)
DL 1074 from SLC to MSP (on 9.21, 5:30 pm departure)
1) Diverted to OMA (bad weather in MSP)
2) Took off to MSP
3) Diverted back to OMA
4) Crew timed out (but not pilots)
5) Deplaned us all in OMA
6) Got checked luggage
7) Pilots "ferried" the plane back to MSP (with timed out crew)
8) Found hotel in OMA (3 am)
9) Delta reservations took an hour to build a new segment in my reservation from OMA to MSP
10) Flew OMA to MSP on 9.22 (arriving 16 hours after we "took off").
11) Got credit for segment from SLC to MSP and OMA to MSP in same reservation
Owe ... and we missed our connecting flight to AMS by about 16 hours
Happydad
DL 1074 from SLC to MSP (on 9.21, 5:30 pm departure)
1) Diverted to OMA (bad weather in MSP)
2) Took off to MSP
3) Diverted back to OMA
4) Crew timed out (but not pilots)
5) Deplaned us all in OMA
6) Got checked luggage
7) Pilots "ferried" the plane back to MSP (with timed out crew)
8) Found hotel in OMA (3 am)
9) Delta reservations took an hour to build a new segment in my reservation from OMA to MSP
10) Flew OMA to MSP on 9.22 (arriving 16 hours after we "took off").
11) Got credit for segment from SLC to MSP and OMA to MSP in same reservation
Owe ... and we missed our connecting flight to AMS by about 16 hours
Happydad
Sep 23, 2016, 8:42 am
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I was in that mess on Wednesday night as well, flying AUS-MSP scheduled to land in MSP just after 9pm. We got on the outskirts of MSP and pilot said we were circling and it could be for up to 45 minutes, then about 10 minutes later gets on the mic and says we're on the way to OMA.
We landed in OMA and took us awhile to get a gate, but we finally got one and they let people off to stretch out and use the bathroom. I actually heard them call your flight for boarding to leave for MSP about 15 minutes before they reboarded our plane. We ended up making it into MSP about 12:45am, but that last flight from OMA-MSP which was supposed to be about 50 minutes was 1:30, we had to take a non-direct route and still circle a couple times.
We landed in OMA and took us awhile to get a gate, but we finally got one and they let people off to stretch out and use the bathroom. I actually heard them call your flight for boarding to leave for MSP about 15 minutes before they reboarded our plane. We ended up making it into MSP about 12:45am, but that last flight from OMA-MSP which was supposed to be about 50 minutes was 1:30, we had to take a non-direct route and still circle a couple times.
Sep 23, 2016, 10:10 am
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Had a co-worder on MKE-MSP that also was diverted to OMA on Wednesday, but that worked out great for him as he was heading home to Omaha He ended up getting home 2 hours earlier than expected.
He ended up getting home 2 hours earlier than expected.
Sep 23, 2016, 11:01 am
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Sep 23, 2016, 11:02 am
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Wednesday for me was DCA-MSP at 14:59 departure to arrive at 16:30
1 hour 31 minute maintanence delay at DCA
circled
diverted to DMS and for a few hours
Took off and arrived 20 minutes before timeout at 12:05AM
Of course the 17:00 DCA-MSP landed between storms 30 minutes. Bad choice getting on the earlier flight.
1 hour 31 minute maintanence delay at DCA
circled
diverted to DMS and for a few hours
Took off and arrived 20 minutes before timeout at 12:05AM
Of course the 17:00 DCA-MSP landed between storms 30 minutes. Bad choice getting on the earlier flight.
Sep 23, 2016, 1:07 pm
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Not directly related, but the Tiger at the Twins game on the night of 9/21 was rained out and they played the game the next afternoon to an almost empty stadium and the sounds were very different because there was very little crowd noise.
Bob H
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Sep 23, 2016, 1:31 pm
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Trip Report (New One For Me)
DL 1074 from SLC to MSP (on 9.21, 5:30 pm departure)
1) Diverted to OMA (bad weather in MSP)
2) Took off to MSP
3) Diverted back to OMA
4) Crew timed out (but not pilots)
5) Deplaned us all in OMA
6) Got checked luggage
7) Pilots "ferried" the plane back to MSP (with timed out crew)
8) Found hotel in OMA (3 am)
9) Delta reservations took an hour to build a new segment in my reservation from OMA to MSP
10) Flew OMA to MSP on 9.22 (arriving 16 hours after we "took off").
11) Got credit for segment from SLC to MSP and OMA to MSP in same reservation
Owe ... and we missed our connecting flight to AMS by about 16 hours
Happydad
DL 1074 from SLC to MSP (on 9.21, 5:30 pm departure)
1) Diverted to OMA (bad weather in MSP)
2) Took off to MSP
3) Diverted back to OMA
4) Crew timed out (but not pilots)
5) Deplaned us all in OMA
6) Got checked luggage
7) Pilots "ferried" the plane back to MSP (with timed out crew)
8) Found hotel in OMA (3 am)
9) Delta reservations took an hour to build a new segment in my reservation from OMA to MSP
10) Flew OMA to MSP on 9.22 (arriving 16 hours after we "took off").
11) Got credit for segment from SLC to MSP and OMA to MSP in same reservation
Owe ... and we missed our connecting flight to AMS by about 16 hours
Happydad
Sep 23, 2016, 1:33 pm
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Flight attendants do not generally time out. Delta however extends similar work rules to the flight attendants that union carriers have. The airline will ask them to extend however they can decline the extension. Generally they offer additional pay if they will extend. You will find that former NW flight attendants who were union often decline the extension.
Sep 23, 2016, 2:31 pm
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I'm a little confused. Usually - once a crew member is wheels up, they do not time out - or is that just a pilot rule? Seems the time to fly back to OMA the second time due to timeout was about the same to just continue to MSP. Are you sure the 2nd divert was for timeout?
Sep 23, 2016, 2:39 pm
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It's happened to me before, flying SFO-ATL-MEM, had a medical diversion at MEM. If we had diverted elsewhere, I would have had to spend the night in ATL.
FWIW, I got the MQM for SFO-ATL. I didn't think to call in and request original routing credit, not sure what would have happened there.
FWIW, I got the MQM for SFO-ATL. I didn't think to call in and request original routing credit, not sure what would have happened there.
Sep 23, 2016, 2:45 pm
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At least they let the guy off sometimes they dont.
Last edited by dzflyer; Sep 23, 2016 at 3:08 pm
Sep 23, 2016, 2:46 pm
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Sorry for continuing the off topic but I watched the game on TV and saw maybe 500 people there. Then the box score says attendance of 18k. I lol'd at that.
Sep 23, 2016, 4:03 pm
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I'm a little confused. Usually - once a crew member is wheels up, they do not time out - or is that just a pilot rule? Seems the time to fly back to OMA the second time due to timeout was about the same to just continue to MSP. Are you sure the 2nd divert was for timeout?
As for the comment on FAs timing out, yes they do time out just like any other crew. There's FAA limits, and even if not union, there's company limits.