Emotional Support Animals, Service Dogs and Comfort Pets: The Definitive Thread
Jun 13, 2017, 11:10 am
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Jun 13, 2017, 11:18 am
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*since you seem to have put a lot of thought into this and have repeatedly cited it as your contingency plan
Jun 13, 2017, 11:31 am
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I threatened to kill an animal if it caused significant distress to my wife. I was responding to a poster who said he doesn't use the ESA scam to transport his cat, but does let it out of its carrier, which is a violation of the rules. I don't care if you juggle cats on-board. The problem isn't the cat, but the distress it causes my wife. Maybe other people are not protective of their spouse. I am.
We can argue and lobby all day for favoring one policy over another regarding animals, but threatening to kill an animal is crossing a line.
Remember that there is no protected right to fly... At the end of the day if you're so upset about a policy that you're willing to resort to killing an animal, you absolutely should not be flying.
Jun 13, 2017, 12:05 pm
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Maybe other people would try to find some intermediate remedy between your spouse facing significant distress and the premeditated* killing of a sentient animal even if it is non-human.
*since you seem to have put a lot of thought into this and have repeatedly cited it as your contingency plan
*since you seem to have put a lot of thought into this and have repeatedly cited it as your contingency plan
Once again, I don't object to animals in the cabin, and I don't object to the policy regarding pets, I object to the poster who feels he's entitled to an exemption from the policy, even though it would cause my wife great distress.
Jun 13, 2017, 12:13 pm
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I threatened to kill an animal if it caused significant distress to my wife. I was responding to a poster who said he doesn't use the ESA scam to transport his cat, but does let it out of its carrier, which is a violation of the rules. I don't care if you juggle cats on-board. The problem isn't the cat, but the distress it causes my wife. Maybe other people are not protective of their spouse. I am.
Jun 13, 2017, 12:25 pm
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You are correct about the ADA covering legitimate service animals only.
However airlines are instead bound by the ACAA (Air Carrier Access Act) https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/disability and in particular (regarding service animals and ESAs) here https://www.transportation.gov/sites...20030509_2.pdf.
They do not have a choice in whether to accept documented ESAs.
However airlines are instead bound by the ACAA (Air Carrier Access Act) https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/disability and in particular (regarding service animals and ESAs) here https://www.transportation.gov/sites...20030509_2.pdf.
They do not have a choice in whether to accept documented ESAs.
Jun 13, 2017, 12:58 pm
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FAs would be more than happy to reseat you and your wife in another part of the plane away from the cat.
Jun 13, 2017, 12:59 pm
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Jun 13, 2017, 1:16 pm
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here's what you actually wrote
You don't think you have any responsibility to look for an alternate resolution, you have a right to fully escalate all the way to get what you want without thinking about anyone else.
FAs would be more than happy to reseat you and your wife in another part of the plane away from the cat.
You don't think you have any responsibility to look for an alternate resolution, you have a right to fully escalate all the way to get what you want without thinking about anyone else.
FAs would be more than happy to reseat you and your wife in another part of the plane away from the cat.
Jun 13, 2017, 2:06 pm
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I threatened to kill an animal if it caused significant distress to my wife. I was responding to a poster who said he doesn't use the ESA scam to transport his cat, but does let it out of its carrier, which is a violation of the rules. I don't care if you juggle cats on-board. The problem isn't the cat, but the distress it causes my wife. Maybe other people are not protective of their spouse. I am.
Originally Posted by zitsky View Post
I will sometimes open the carrier to pet my cat, but I won't let them out on the plane. I once did that in the airport with a cat I didn't think would run away. Just let her head out of the carrier.
I will sometimes open the carrier to pet my cat, but I won't let them out on the plane. I once did that in the airport with a cat I didn't think would run away. Just let her head out of the carrier.
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Jun 13, 2017, 2:08 pm
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Jun 13, 2017, 2:23 pm
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Jun 13, 2017, 2:50 pm
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You have dismissed my wife's very real response as "ridiculous," and then announced that you'll let your cat pop its head out of its carrier in-flight, in violation of the carrier's policy, and without regard of the impact it has on my wife. You are the last person to lecture me about what I should know better.
Jun 13, 2017, 2:58 pm
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You have dismissed my wife's very real response as "ridiculous," and then announced that you'll let your cat pop its head out of its carrier in-flight, in violation of the carrier's policy, and without regard of the impact it has on my wife. You are the last person to lecture me about what I should know better.
I will sometimes open the carrier to pet my cat, but I won't let them out on the plane. I once did that in the airport with a cat I didn't think would run away. Just let her head out of the carrier.