DL Showing Yes/No Award Space on EF
#16
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: IND
Programs: DL DM, UA & AA Peeon, Hilton/Starwood Gold
Posts: 875
ExpertFlyer didn't show award inventory before the great clampdown, so this is actually new functionality, for EF anyway.
The Yes/No availability as opposed to actual seat counts is pretty much exactly what KVS has always shown, so it sounds like EF got their hands on whatever datasource or methodology KVS was using.
The Yes/No availability as opposed to actual seat counts is pretty much exactly what KVS has always shown, so it sounds like EF got their hands on whatever datasource or methodology KVS was using.
#17
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: ATL
Programs: Bonvoy Ambassador, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Gold, AA EXP, UA Silver, former DL DM
Posts: 2,001
#18
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 15,302
So basically, still no cooperation of DL with EF... whatever method EF is using for this limited data does not use GDS. Don't get your hopes up... DL is moving in the direction of limiting visibility in everything they can.
#19
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,462
ExpertFlyer didn't show award inventory before the great clampdown, so this is actually new functionality, for EF anyway.
The Yes/No availability as opposed to actual seat counts is pretty much exactly what KVS has always shown, so it sounds like EF got their hands on whatever datasource or methodology KVS was using.
The Yes/No availability as opposed to actual seat counts is pretty much exactly what KVS has always shown, so it sounds like EF got their hands on whatever datasource or methodology KVS was using.
Similarly, one can painfully find fare class availability if there are fares that apply, but not for lower buckets close to departure.
#20
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: IND
Programs: DL DM, UA & AA Peeon, Hilton/Starwood Gold
Posts: 875
Sorry for the gaffe--I've been on EF for too long looking for RTW award space on AF and KL My bad!
#21
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Nat'l Exec Elite, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 16,317
Sure you are. The booking class for awards is shown right in the search results.
#23
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,462
However, this is making me wonder how DL codes the inventory for domestic coach routes where tickets under 12,500 one way are sometimes available, for instance the 5,000 and 7,500 one ways as well as 19,000 and 20,000 IIRC RTs that have been reported here.
#24
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: DL Diamond 1.7MM, Starlux Insighter, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,955
You're right.
However, this is making me wonder how DL codes the inventory for domestic coach routes where tickets under 12,500 one way are sometimes available, for instance the 5,000 and 7,500 one ways as well as 19,000 and 20,000 IIRC RTs that have been reported here.
However, this is making me wonder how DL codes the inventory for domestic coach routes where tickets under 12,500 one way are sometimes available, for instance the 5,000 and 7,500 one ways as well as 19,000 and 20,000 IIRC RTs that have been reported here.
#25
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, Nat'l Exec Elite, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 16,317
#26
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: KATL
Programs: DL DM/2MM
Posts: 2,036
I want to say it was based on a misunderstanding and that Delta was using the N bucket in the GDS for something different than they were using it for internally.
#27
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 42
Expert Flyer and Delta Award redemption?
Does Expert Flyer now show low level partner availability for award redemption?
I gave seen that it now shows Delta operated "Saver" fare award avaiability.
Thanks!!!
I gave seen that it now shows Delta operated "Saver" fare award avaiability.
Thanks!!!
Last edited by RSSrsvp; Aug 4, 2015 at 2:04 pm Reason: Merged into existing thread on the subject
#28
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,462
It depends on the partner. Normally to find DL award availability for partner flights, you search for low award availability on the partner's own website or on EF under the partner airline operating the flights. Some SkyTeam and other DL partners show their low award availability on EF and others don't.
ADDED: You might find partner award availability on EF by searching for DL awards, but I would expect searching explicitly for the partner award inventory to be more accurate. AFAIK not all partner awards can be booked on delta.dumb versus needing to call DL and those are the cases where looking for award inventory using that carrier's website or under the carrier on EF is more likely to be needed IMO.
ADDED: You might find partner award availability on EF by searching for DL awards, but I would expect searching explicitly for the partner award inventory to be more accurate. AFAIK not all partner awards can be booked on delta.dumb versus needing to call DL and those are the cases where looking for award inventory using that carrier's website or under the carrier on EF is more likely to be needed IMO.
Last edited by MSPeconomist; Aug 4, 2015 at 5:53 pm