Originally Posted by FlyAO2
(Post 25043694)
Yes - but my point is since everyone has jumped on the band wagon there isn't a place for a customer to go. Hence why business have no downside for promoting the message
With DL/UA/AA/WN/B6/AS all supporting marriage equality there are not a lot of other options for you for air travel! Maybe that's why some people are so supportive of the ME3 expanding in the US!!!! |
Wow, I've really never started a thread that went anywhere, mostly just asked basic questions. This has been so much fun! And [not] surprised to learn how many prideful folks are DL FT'ers!
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Originally Posted by FlyAO2
(Post 25043376)
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It is good business because the people who support this are happy and the people who do not support this have been bullied into keeping their mouths shut for fear of being outcasted or labeled "evil people" or "full of hate". This is why you see virtually every business promoting this with no fear of retribution from the other side of the view. It's the golden jackpot of scenarios for businesses. I'm sorry, this is a little off topic but I refuse to accept the concept of people being "bullied into keeping their mouth shuts" when thousands of children everyday are truly being bullied for being who they are and many of them end up taking their lives because they think they will not be accepted. So yes, I truly believe that people against gay rights are indeed evil because they make millions of people's lives more difficult or even impossible. Again, I'm sorry about the off topic. To get back, regardless of the reason, by showing support the domestic airlines are helping a lot of people while not harming anyone. If someone feels like they should fly me3 because of the gay issue, they should fully accept everything that comes with it, including the lack of women's rights. |
Originally Posted by Widgets
(Post 25036011)
Both employees and customers in the industry are disproportionately homosexual. This isn't just good PR; it's the company's culture.
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Originally Posted by longing4piedmont
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Originally Posted by Widgets
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Both employees and customers in the industry are disproportionately homosexual. This isn't just good PR; it's the company's culture.
Also, anyone who believes the LGBT population is only 1.6% of the US is in for a rude awakening. |
Originally Posted by Corganbr
(Post 25043785)
... So yes, I truly believe that people against gay rights are indeed evil because they make millions of people's lives more difficult or even impossible. ....
If you really believe that each of these companies and their offiicers all truly believe 100% in gay marriage you are being delusional. It is just good business right now. (Just like it is good politics and how key politicians switched from no to yes when the tide was moving) |
Originally Posted by lamont2718
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"Disproportionately" does not mean mostly -- it means at a proportion greater than that of the broader population.
Also, anyone who believes the LGBT population is only 1.6% of the US is in for a rude awakening. But feel free to believe what you want.....it is after all to your benefit to overstate the numbers. |
Originally Posted by FlyAO2
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My point exactly. So many people who geniunely disagrees for whatever reason (religious, moral, etc...) don't want to hear this or be told this so they keep their mouth shut. If you really believe that each of these companies and their offiicers all truly believe 100% in gay marriage you are being delusional. It is just good business right now. (Just like it is good politics and how key politicians switched from no to yes when the tide was moving) Obviously I don't think all executives are pro gay rights. But I'm not sure it's good business, like I said, chick fila had a bump in sales after all the controversy. But whatever the reason is, it's great that they support gay causes. As for the percentage of the gay population, it's very hard to tell because there are so many people in the closet. And even people who are out might be forced to lie in some instances due to the lack of protection laws. Not to mention the ones in heterosexual marriages getting some gay on the side! :) |
Originally Posted by kop84
(Post 25043721)
With DL/UA/AA/WN/B6/AS all supporting marriage equality there are not a lot of other options for you for air travel!
Maybe that's why some people are so supportive of the ME3 expanding in the US!!!! You think THIS is a major reason why people want airlines from half way around the world to start flying within the USA?!? To even think this is a remote possibility of any real meaning - I hafto give you a . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Originally Posted by Corganbr
(Post 25044073)
As for the percentage of the gay population, it's very hard to tell because there are so many people in the closet. And even people who are out might be forced to lie in some instances due to the lack of protection laws. Not to mention the ones in heterosexual marriages getting some gay on the side! :)
Gay and Str8 is not an all or nothing deal for everyone. If Str8 is a "1", and Gay is "100", there are 99 shades in between! Surely not all of the people who are between, let's say, 50 & 99 would identify as "Gay". :) |
Originally Posted by davetravels
(Post 25044190)
S E R I O U S L Y ? ! ? ! ?
You think THIS is a major reason why people want airlines from half way around the world to start flying within the USA?!? To even think this is a remote possibility of any real meaning - I hafto give you a . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Not to mention, that - - - Gay and Str8 is not an all or nothing deal for everyone. If Str8 is a "1", and Gay is "100", there are 99 shades in between! Surely not all of the people who are between, let's say, 50 & 99 would identify as "Gay". :) I know the two are totally unrelated just thought it would be a funny juxtaposition. |
Originally Posted by longing4piedmont
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You may then want to contact the US government about your concerns. The numbers are directly from a 2014 study survey done by the National Center for Health Statistics.
At any rate, the NHIS survey asked about identity as self-reported and not about behavior. There are plenty of gay/bi individuals who identify as "straight" despite having same-sex desires or having had same-sex encounters. Ever heard of the term LUG -- lesbian until graduation?
Originally Posted by longing4piedmont
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The highest estimate that can be found is less than 5% and that is from an pro-gay organization.
Originally Posted by longing4piedmont
(Post 25043987)
But feel free to believe what you want.....it is after all to your benefit to overstate the numbers.
OMNI-ho! |
Originally Posted by Corganbr
(Post 25044073)
I wish they would keep their mouths shut and reevaluate their ideals for the greater good.
.... ....But they aren't anymore, so businesses are riding along. |
Originally Posted by kop84
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My tongue was firmly in cheek for my post.
I know the two are totally unrelated just thought it would be a funny juxtaposition. :D |
Originally Posted by lamont2718
(Post 25044357)
If you are going to cite published figures, at least cite them accurately. The NHIS figure of 1.6% excludes 0.7% of respondents who identified as bisexual and 1.1% of respondents who identified as "something else" or "I don't know". In total, 3.4% of respondents did not identify as straight.
At any rate, the NHIS survey asked about identity as self-reported and not about behavior. There are plenty of gay/bi individuals who identify as "straight" despite having same-sex desires or having had same-sex encounters. Ever heard of the term LUG -- lesbian until graduation? It looks like you didn't search very hard. The second Google hit on the query "what percent of the population is gay" is a Smithsonian article about a study that found 20% of the individuals are attracted to their own gender: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-...012467/?no-ist I believe the real percentage of US men who feel attracted to men and/or who have had same-sex encounters is closer to 10%. But the reality is we'll never know thanks to the unrealiable nature of self-reporting. OMNI-ho! |
Originally Posted by FlyAO2
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and this keeps emphasizing my points. One could have valid religious objections to this -- much in the way people clamor for their activities/behavior to be respected, so should someone's views who is opposed to this. ....But they aren't anymore, so businesses are riding along. |
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