Singleflyer

I also have a NH license with just a PO Box on it. I also travel with a passport card and a passport. In the past I could easily end up in Canada or one of the islands during the week after I left home. I have kept that practice up and use the passport card for all ID purposes except when renting a car. I just don't understand why when traveling you would not have an extra form of ID with you.

United747

I always carry my MN DL as well as GE card, but I'll now add my passport to that list as well. I don't want to keep paying for people to overnight my passport to me.

pbarnette

I don't think it is about blame at all. I think it is about DL being better able to handle the review at check-in as opposed to at the gate. I, for one, do not want to see my boarding process extended because people forget their passports.

LaserSailor

Are you sure? When I steal high end stuff from houses, I replace it with well-made duplicates

Not wanting to show your address to TSA is pure hyperbole - Im surprised such a person is connected to the Internet.

sethb

So a passenger lies (perhaps even has to sign a document saying that his passport will be available at the connecting airport) and gets screwed because of it. I don't see the downside.

sethb

But you end up paying taxes anyway, don't you?

(And I saw that you had to surrender your US license to get an NL one; but couldn't you replace the US license? Some states even let you renew by mail, obviously without sending in your old license.)

sethb

Just like people who forget their boarding passes, they get asked to step aside so others can board.

Also, IIRC, they check passports at the foreign-departure connecting airport anyway, even if you show it at your first airport.

baccarat_king

I offset gambling losses on my US Taxes.

When you surrender your US drivers license in The Netherlands under the "30% ruling," you are issued an EU (NL) drivers license with no written or road test. (you are required to do this in a very short time frame, if you are a permanent resident)

The US license is returned to the US Consulate, and they are supposed to forward the license to your state in the US. How efficiently this happens, I have no idea. But, I'm not about to "lie" to get a replacement NH license; since I did indeed turn it in. (that would be like asking for a replacement Ohio license after you moved to NH and got a new NH license; albeit, definitely more trackable).

GUWonder

Sounds like DHS/TSA.

It doesn't take much memory power to remember a house address in a city with which a person is already familiar. Street number and street name are rather ordinarily, easily remembered and far easier to recall than ordinary license plate numbers in the US. All they have to do is recall two easy items for just long enough time to write it down or enter it on their phone.

pbarnette

Agreed. The exaggeration of problems into something they are not is exactly what happens whenever the TSA is mentioned. You have a contingent of folks that are upset they have to take off their shoes so they exaggerate, manipulate, or flat-out lie about the extent of any abuses and misdeeds. Unfortunately, those folks (abetted by a sensationalist media) tend to dominate the conversation, not with any sort of facts, but with the sheer constancy of their hyperbole.

It sure does when you are looking at hundreds of licenses during any given shift.

And I don't think that there are large numbers of people memorizing my license plate number in order to rob my house either.

Oh, is that all? It is a wonder, then, that we haven't seen a massive outbreak of home burglaries by TSA agents. I mean, it is so easy and there are massive numbers of TSA agents looking to rob each and every one of us.

Classic anti-TSA rhetoric. Insert hypothetical risk, no matter how small. Exaggerate. Repeat claim over and over, without any evidence. And the more hardened anti-TSA folks wonder why nobody actually listens to anything they say. They have no credibility and, frankly, come across as a bit nutty.

sethb

I wouldn't recommend lying. But I don't know just what they send you shortly before the expiration of your license, and what forms you might have to fill out online to get the renewal license. Depending on the wording, there might be no lying involved.

Hal Newhouser

Not showing your home address to TSA doesn't go far enough.

When I travel, I also wear a brown bag over my head so as to thwart facial recognition and I also layer the top of the bag with heavy duty tin foil to prevent any possible mind reading.

GUWonder

It doesn't when a thief/stalker first looks at and selects a target and then decides to memorize the two simple local details for the selected target.

tvnwz

It appears the TSA can even hire stalkers...and does!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/2...ng-harassment/

Sez_Who

Not disagreeing with you but once something is reviewed on a case by case basis, it destroys consistency and transparency. Then we are certain to have threads where someone got an exception while another argued they should have received it as well but didn’t.

Of course some things are already decided case by case, and some elites receive unpublished benefits. For that matter, some kettles probably do as well. But the more airlines are free to pick and choose everything based on individual circumstances, the less we will ever know what the real rules are.