Hey Fargo! You've got a DL B744 en route
Jun 14, 2014, 12:49 pm
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Hey Fargo! You've got a DL B744 en route
Bad winds over south Minneapolis today have really messed up the airport. DL156 NRT-MSP circled for a while before diverting to Fargo. Feel bad for them all trying to clear customs there. But hey. Bet people don't get photos of B744 in FAR very often!
Jun 14, 2014, 12:53 pm
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Jun 14, 2014, 12:56 pm
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Ouch. Bad news for MSP-NRT pax with connections. By the time this was known it was probably too late to get rerouted to another US gateway to NRT.
And like the last diversion (LAX-NRT to ANC), this is a non-wifi bird. There's only two left! Evil (wi-f)eye..
And like the last diversion (LAX-NRT to ANC), this is a non-wifi bird. There's only two left! Evil (wi-f)eye..
Jun 14, 2014, 1:01 pm
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The flight is NRT/MSP, which is probably better then the reverse. I think more opportunities for later-in-the-day connecting flights.
Jun 14, 2014, 1:14 pm
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Many years ago flying LGW-MSP on a NW DC-10 we were diverted to Fargo because of winds. We sat on the ground for a couple hours before flying on to MSP.
As a GE I had gotten my only true OpUp on NW and wanting to pay it back I lent my cell phone to about ten people who needed to call people to let them know what was up. Hard to remember times where a cell phone was something out of the ordinary
As a GE I had gotten my only true OpUp on NW and wanting to pay it back I lent my cell phone to about ten people who needed to call people to let them know what was up. Hard to remember times where a cell phone was something out of the ordinary
Jun 14, 2014, 1:20 pm
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I'm saying, the diversion will cause MSP-NRT to be delayed, and pax will miss connections in NRT. Had the diversion been known further in advance, it would have given a chance to go MSP-XXX-NRT.
Jun 14, 2014, 1:38 pm
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Jun 14, 2014, 3:25 pm
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MSP - NRT will arrive two hours late so yes, those connecting pax will miss Delta connections. I would imagine that Delta already protected them on other airlines to get them to SIN/MNL/BKK/HKG/TPE... what am I leaving out?
Jun 14, 2014, 3:40 pm
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Only other place I can think of is Bumfuk, Egypt if some folks are headed there - usually U.S. Military.
Jun 14, 2014, 6:10 pm
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At NRT, changing terminals is a pain. Also, if someone gas upgraded with a SWU or GUC or miles, will they be put into business class on the rebooking with another carrier?
Jun 14, 2014, 6:22 pm
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Cause if the NRT-SIN arrives at SIN 2 hours late ie at 3am it still gives enough time at SIN to clean the aircraft and get catering etc for the outbound SIN-NRT departure at 6am.
Jun 14, 2014, 6:28 pm
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Usually when such a major disruption occurs the DL folks at NRT will hold the connecting flights from NRT to SIN/ BKK/ HKG/TPE/MNL to enable these pax on the MSP-NRT flight to make their connections.
Cause if the NRT-SIN arrives at SIN 2 hours late ie at 3am it still gives enough time at SIN to clean the aircraft and get catering etc for the outbound SIN-NRT departure at 6am.
Cause if the NRT-SIN arrives at SIN 2 hours late ie at 3am it still gives enough time at SIN to clean the aircraft and get catering etc for the outbound SIN-NRT departure at 6am.
HKG & SIN leave at 7:15. BKK & TPE at 6:45. MNL at 6:20.
None delayed yet.
BKK, TPE & MNL are all B744s. HKG & SIN are B777s.
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Jun 14, 2014, 7:23 pm
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I think the decision depends somewhat on whether other carriers have space for the potential misconnects.
Sometimes a better alternative exMSP is to reroute through Europe to SIN, HKG, etc. Then you arrive late of course, but not a full 24 hours late.
Sometimes a better alternative exMSP is to reroute through Europe to SIN, HKG, etc. Then you arrive late of course, but not a full 24 hours late.
Jun 15, 2014, 12:20 am
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The alternatives to get in by Monday morning are basically through Europe, or to use one of the flights run by various Asian carriers that leave YVR/SFO/LAX around midnight and arrive early Monday morning.