Flew in F on AS today..hated it
Apr 22, 2014, 10:55 am
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At any rate, I think we are pretty far from the topic of this thread. To which I'll add: I don't get the fuss over AS. I've flown them in F and Y and thought them okay, but inferior to DL in terms of in-flight product.
Apr 22, 2014, 12:03 pm
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I have flown about 40,000 miles in DL first on A/P fares the past 12 months and as an AS flyer thought I would share my thoughts on DL if anyone cares. 
DL does do a good job of the PDB. Almost always get it unless a delay is involved and even then sometimes get one. Has always baffled me why AS doesn't do it.
I have been on several very tired looking DL aircraft (757, A320 and A319) with no power either. A 5 hour flight from ATL-PDX late last year had nothing once (737-800). No power, internet or programming. If you were on AS 737-700 or 737-400 yes they are tired aircraft.
Overall the service has been solid and no complaints on any flight that I can remember.
Meal wise there is a chicken salad that has been offered more often than not that is nothing to write home about (way too much blue cheese). Had a couple of decent burgers recently and like the fresh fruit. I agree with the OP that AS catering in general is nothing to write home about though and is pretty weak overall. I like the snack basket DL offers and should be standard on all airlines.
I think DL does a good job but in no way do I think they are head and shoulders above any other carrier I have flown in F.
Not sure this seat flight on an A320 or 757 (think it was SLC-PDX and was mid 2013) is the best that DL has to offer. Edges were really sharp.
DL does do a good job of the PDB. Almost always get it unless a delay is involved and even then sometimes get one. Has always baffled me why AS doesn't do it.
I have been on several very tired looking DL aircraft (757, A320 and A319) with no power either. A 5 hour flight from ATL-PDX late last year had nothing once (737-800). No power, internet or programming. If you were on AS 737-700 or 737-400 yes they are tired aircraft.
Overall the service has been solid and no complaints on any flight that I can remember.
Meal wise there is a chicken salad that has been offered more often than not that is nothing to write home about (way too much blue cheese). Had a couple of decent burgers recently and like the fresh fruit. I agree with the OP that AS catering in general is nothing to write home about though and is pretty weak overall. I like the snack basket DL offers and should be standard on all airlines.
I think DL does a good job but in no way do I think they are head and shoulders above any other carrier I have flown in F.
Not sure this seat flight on an A320 or 757 (think it was SLC-PDX and was mid 2013) is the best that DL has to offer. Edges were really sharp.
Not even gogo? Was it broken?
Apr 22, 2014, 12:22 pm
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Apr 22, 2014, 1:42 pm
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Well, if you say so. I don't personally believe in God; or anything else such as this.
I'm culturally Jewish; I do a "lot" of things to make my wife happy. But, I also do things to connect me to my identity, and keep traditions going. (the traditions, the past, it's all related; and very important to not forget...) I'm not anti-religion, I just don't get very caught up in the "God-belief" mechanisms.
I'm culturally Jewish; I do a "lot" of things to make my wife happy. But, I also do things to connect me to my identity, and keep traditions going. (the traditions, the past, it's all related; and very important to not forget...) I'm not anti-religion, I just don't get very caught up in the "God-belief" mechanisms.
Apr 22, 2014, 3:10 pm
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Here is an old post on the AS side explaining why AS cannot have water bottles. I'm sure the little water bottle pocket on DL seat back has somethng to do with why DL has the bottles.
Here is an old post on the AS side explaining why AS cannot have water bottles. I'm sure the little water bottle pocket on DL seat back has somethng to do with why DL has the bottles.
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Originally Posted by AS Flyer View Post
Actually, at least one FAA inspector has decided to enforce a decades old FAA regulation. That regulation says that ALL onboard service items must be collected or stowed in an approved stowage location prior to take-off/landing. The seat pocket is only approved for soft items (magazine, newspapers, basically paper items). SO, the water bottles can not go in the seat pocket and you can not hold them for take-off/landing. Strangely enough, you can hold a water bottle YOU brought on but not the one we gave you. When another airline does a full pre-departure beverage service they generally always pick up the cups, empty or not, before sitting down. Anyway - this Flight Attendant seems to have taken it up on herself to interpret this rule on her own. The company has only asked that we pick up all water bottles prior to being seated before take-off. They (being management) NEVER told us not to pass the water out prior to take-off. The funny thing is, this has been the rule all along. The company reposted it and let us know that the FAA is, apparently, vigirously enforcing it. Odd that ANY Flight Attendant would pretend they didn't know this before.
Here is an old post on the AS side explaining why AS cannot have water bottles. I'm sure the little water bottle pocket on DL seat back has somethng to do with why DL has the bottles.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AS Flyer View Post
Actually, at least one FAA inspector has decided to enforce a decades old FAA regulation. That regulation says that ALL onboard service items must be collected or stowed in an approved stowage location prior to take-off/landing. The seat pocket is only approved for soft items (magazine, newspapers, basically paper items). SO, the water bottles can not go in the seat pocket and you can not hold them for take-off/landing. Strangely enough, you can hold a water bottle YOU brought on but not the one we gave you. When another airline does a full pre-departure beverage service they generally always pick up the cups, empty or not, before sitting down. Anyway - this Flight Attendant seems to have taken it up on herself to interpret this rule on her own. The company has only asked that we pick up all water bottles prior to being seated before take-off. They (being management) NEVER told us not to pass the water out prior to take-off. The funny thing is, this has been the rule all along. The company reposted it and let us know that the FAA is, apparently, vigirously enforcing it. Odd that ANY Flight Attendant would pretend they didn't know this before.
Apr 22, 2014, 3:36 pm
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While all airlines are supposed to collect cups and bottles before departure. Some FAs are more lenient about it, just someone at AS was a bit more literal with the rules. Many of the DL connection carriers like Compass that lay the water in the cup holders just ensure that it's secured prior to take off.
Apr 22, 2014, 4:15 pm
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I am also not impressed by AS first class. The ugly carpeting on the bulkhead feels so outdated and nasty. Also, I have found the service to be a bit too casual. For example, the official policy is that the F lav is open to use by Y pax except on international flights (so flights to Canada). Also, on more than one flight on AS I have noticed an obviously dirty cabin upon boarding....food on the floor, etc.
Apr 22, 2014, 6:09 pm
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Actually, a lot of brewers have been moving into craft spirits. With all the breweries in Oregon and Washington and I'm there are many up there as well.
Apr 22, 2014, 6:53 pm
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I am also not impressed by AS first class. The ugly carpeting on the bulkhead feels so outdated and nasty. Also, I have found the service to be a bit too casual. For example, the official policy is that the F lav is open to use by Y pax except on international flights (so flights to Canada). Also, on more than one flight on AS I have noticed an obviously dirty cabin upon boarding....food on the floor, etc.
AS minuses:
No PDB
I think the plastic cup of water quickly offered then taken away is tacky
No IFE
Few seats with AC power, even USB
Skimpy F meals and snacks
AS plusses:
Better NW regional wines and spirits
BoardRoom's and amenities
Apr 22, 2014, 7:17 pm
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Your comment about their "official policy" is completely false. Where did you find this official policy? Every AS flight I'm on includes at least one, sometimes two, announcements that the front lavatory is designated for first class cabin and lines shouldn't be formed at either lavatory. I don't expect a flight attendant to tackle someone who makes a run from row 10 to the front.
Apr 22, 2014, 10:54 pm
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