Refundable ticket to help family to gate
#16
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Just buy the cheapest one way ticket anywhere with the airline that will get you to the gate area you need to go to.
Had a similar situation a few months ago at LAX...needed to be in the Delta terminal...at LAX T-5, T-6 and T-7 are all accessible once you clear security...just bought a cheap ticket on United and took the tunnel to T-5. Cancelled the ticket within 30 minutes. Just to be sure, I cancelled the UA ticket online and I called UA as well.
Another problem is that there are conflicting rules about gate passes depending on which airport you need one. At LAX, all of the agents recently have told me that they don't exist at LAX.
At DFW it was problem at all. I even took a pic of the DFW gate pass and showed it to the DL employees at LAX and it didn't matter a bit. Was still told it can't be done at LAX.
Had a similar situation a few months ago at LAX...needed to be in the Delta terminal...at LAX T-5, T-6 and T-7 are all accessible once you clear security...just bought a cheap ticket on United and took the tunnel to T-5. Cancelled the ticket within 30 minutes. Just to be sure, I cancelled the UA ticket online and I called UA as well.
Another problem is that there are conflicting rules about gate passes depending on which airport you need one. At LAX, all of the agents recently have told me that they don't exist at LAX.
At DFW it was problem at all. I even took a pic of the DFW gate pass and showed it to the DL employees at LAX and it didn't matter a bit. Was still told it can't be done at LAX.
#17
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Gate passes exist at LAX. I had kids flying unaccompanied, and Delta has to issue gate passes so I can take them to the plane and get them from the plane. I know this is a specific example, but it's proof that gate passes definitely do exist at LAX. I have no idea how much discretion the Delta rep has in deciding to issue/not issue them for other purposes though.
#18
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I've had the exact opposite experience actually. Bought an award ticket at T-18 hours, called Gold line (Gold at the time) and cancelled at T-12. Everything came back - all miles and taxes.
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Just buy the cheapest one way ticket anywhere with the airline that will get you to the gate area you need to go to.
Had a similar situation a few months ago at LAX...needed to be in the Delta terminal...at LAX T-5, T-6 and T-7 are all accessible once you clear security...just bought a cheap ticket on United and took the tunnel to T-5. Cancelled the ticket within 30 minutes. Just to be sure, I cancelled the UA ticket online and I called UA as well.
Another problem is that there are conflicting rules about gate passes depending on which airport you need one. At LAX, all of the agents recently have told me that they don't exist at LAX.
At DFW it was problem at all. I even took a pic of the DFW gate pass and showed it to the DL employees at LAX and it didn't matter a bit. Was still told it can't be done at LAX.
Had a similar situation a few months ago at LAX...needed to be in the Delta terminal...at LAX T-5, T-6 and T-7 are all accessible once you clear security...just bought a cheap ticket on United and took the tunnel to T-5. Cancelled the ticket within 30 minutes. Just to be sure, I cancelled the UA ticket online and I called UA as well.
Another problem is that there are conflicting rules about gate passes depending on which airport you need one. At LAX, all of the agents recently have told me that they don't exist at LAX.
At DFW it was problem at all. I even took a pic of the DFW gate pass and showed it to the DL employees at LAX and it didn't matter a bit. Was still told it can't be done at LAX.
#22
Join Date: Feb 2013
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If you look here it doesn't say anything about tickets issued on the day of departure not qualifying for risk free cancellation.
As someone who has more than once gotten all the way to the gate with a ticket issued only hours before and then realized that I didn't need/ want to go anywhere I can say with complete confidence that tickets purchased for same day travel are still qualified for risk free cancellation until the time of departure.
#23
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Am I really the only one here who finds the idea of buying a ticket you have no intention of using unethical? Abusing what one can legally do is usually what leads to that right being taken away, for everyone. Get a gate pass.
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#25
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There is no way airlines will stop selling fully refundable tickets at a high price. The reason some people buy them is flexibility. I've had two open full fare tickets going at the same time because my destination wasn't going to be determined until the last minute but I needed confirmed space once it was. My company gladly ponied up the $, with the understanding that one (or both) would be refunded in full.
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Where do you see that?
If you look here it doesn't say anything about tickets issued on the day of departure not qualifying for risk free cancellation.
If you look here it doesn't say anything about tickets issued on the day of departure not qualifying for risk free cancellation.
As someone who has more than once gotten all the way to the gate with a ticket issued only hours before and then realized that I didn't need/ want to go anywhere I can say with complete confidence that tickets purchased for same day travel are still qualified for risk free cancellation until the time of departure.
#27
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And to a poster above, LAX is just a pain in my experience to try an get a gate pass from Delta. I am happy that someone has had some luck.
#28
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Every airport also maintains their own policies on gate passes. Not even two airports in the same region (e.g. LGA and JFK) share the same policies for employees and escort policies for gate access.
Your best bet if you want a gate pass -- don't call. I'd walk into that airport when it's not busy and talk to an airline rep several days before you want a gate pass, explain your situation and schedule your visit. Depending on the airport you typically need at least 24 hours, but in some 72+ hours of lead time.
Otherwise, buying a ticket and refunding it is a valid option. But (my opinion and speculation only), I suspect that using this frequently to get airside will probably get you flagged in the airline and TSA databases. Like the person that abuses a retail store generous return policy -- at some point, you're costing the airline opportunity and inventory, and it'll be a problem. It's just a loophole to get airside.
Your best bet if you want a gate pass -- don't call. I'd walk into that airport when it's not busy and talk to an airline rep several days before you want a gate pass, explain your situation and schedule your visit. Depending on the airport you typically need at least 24 hours, but in some 72+ hours of lead time.
Otherwise, buying a ticket and refunding it is a valid option. But (my opinion and speculation only), I suspect that using this frequently to get airside will probably get you flagged in the airline and TSA databases. Like the person that abuses a retail store generous return policy -- at some point, you're costing the airline opportunity and inventory, and it'll be a problem. It's just a loophole to get airside.
#29
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Don't waste your time. I'm wondering how many of the people telling you to purchase a ticket or that you have to go ahead of time or that it's difficult or that DL needs to get approval from TSA (!?!) have actually ever asked for or gotten gate passes. It's not that difficult. Get to the airport early enough to allow time to ask for a manager, but just ask the person checking you in at the airport and you'll most likely be given the pass without issue. They'll see your kids. They'll know you are an FO. IME experience, it won't be an issue. You won't get PC (I did ask last time), but you'll get a pass, like I've gotten many times. At many airports.
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As a United Club member, UA will give me and my guests gate passes to visit the club. But these (and other) gate passes don't entitle one to PreCheck. I do this fairly often. Recently I waited 30 minutes for screening at EWR on a gate pass. Had I purchased a ticket and refunded I would have been through the screening process in under tw minutes. I'll be purchasing tickets in the future...