The CRJ 200 fleet is getting out of hand...
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And I am Atlanta based....no delays on an RJ.
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#18
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AZO must be one of those markets that is well suited to aircraft the size of the CRJ200, because that's all we've seen from DL for the last 5-6 years. Aircraft interiors just keep getting filthier and nastier. I used to email them every time I got on one that was markedly awful (always made sure I told them I wasn't looking for compensation, just wanted them to know how filthy the plane was) but gave up because it got to the point where I'd be sending that email for every flight. Clearly, they don't care as long as the plane is airworthy. We've seen some switchover recently to ERJ's but my first flight on one of those won't be for a couple of weeks. Hopefully it's better.
As far as cancellations and delays go, people who fly from AZO regularly know not to book the last 2 flights in at night or the first 2 out in the morning because they cancel fairly often.
As far as cancellations and delays go, people who fly from AZO regularly know not to book the last 2 flights in at night or the first 2 out in the morning because they cancel fairly often.
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I'd been lucky for quite a while. Then I got stuck in MSP for hours a couple weeks back. The CTT™ took off from ISN that morning and 13 minutes later was back on the ground at ISN. Given that ISN has just started getting CTT™s as a result of oilfield traffic, it appears they had to wait for the next flight from MSP to bring in a part. That flight went in the afternoon. Then they had to fix the plane and send it to MSP for my flight to LNK. Apparently there wasn't a spare aircraft anywhere in MSP for us to use. It was weird being in the C SC during a snowstorm, watching flights being delayed by WX, and knowing that my delay was pretty much 100% MX.
#20
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Is there data out there that shows how often the 200s delay and cancel? My personal experiences of late are frustratingly poor. I will add I have made status on segments since the first Clinton administration... I have flown on these things with frequency for a long time and either I have had a bad run of luck or they are unable to fly a lot more often...
Also, are they under some sort of MO to tape em up and keep em going? The interiors on them are officially shot ... Speaking of tape , there were balls of tape lodged inside the window of the emergency exit door... They appeared to have been intentionally installed. It was kind of disconcerting ... I am sure it was not dangerous, but the fact that people who fix the plane would do that makes you wonder...
Also, are they under some sort of MO to tape em up and keep em going? The interiors on them are officially shot ... Speaking of tape , there were balls of tape lodged inside the window of the emergency exit door... They appeared to have been intentionally installed. It was kind of disconcerting ... I am sure it was not dangerous, but the fact that people who fix the plane would do that makes you wonder...
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Yet, the 700s and 900s are not being treated this way....
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Agree there, the 700/900s have sparkling interiors compared to the 200s. They also seem to be able to actually cool the 700/900 at the gate, whereas the 200s are stinky ovens. Personally I've never had an MX delay on a 900, but have had plenty on 200s over the years.
#23
Join Date: Dec 2011
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I have really great luck at SBN with CRJ-200s. Aside from the cramped interior, they offer a much more flexible connecting schedule.
That being said...yeah, the interiors. Awful. Gouges, rips, cracks, etc. Really makes you wonder.
That being said...yeah, the interiors. Awful. Gouges, rips, cracks, etc. Really makes you wonder.
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I was on N8968E to DTW the other day and the exit door raft rope was hanging into 9D's seat because the door was broken off. I just kept that a little secret as I didn't want to wait for a fix.
Personally, I avoid DTW not because of the CR2, but because of DL's lack of DGS $9.60/hr staff that meet the planes. On my 15-min flight, we sometimes spend more time waiting on DGS ground staff than we do in-flight.
Delta pays great lip-service to the $1B's spent in NYC, now if they truly start people out at $9.60/hr to work the RJ ramps, there's no reason they can't invest in improvements for their CR2 ground service at DTW. At least make what time customers have to spend on those aircraft a minimum.
Personally, I avoid DTW not because of the CR2, but because of DL's lack of DGS $9.60/hr staff that meet the planes. On my 15-min flight, we sometimes spend more time waiting on DGS ground staff than we do in-flight.
Delta pays great lip-service to the $1B's spent in NYC, now if they truly start people out at $9.60/hr to work the RJ ramps, there's no reason they can't invest in improvements for their CR2 ground service at DTW. At least make what time customers have to spend on those aircraft a minimum.
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I was on N8968E to DTW the other day and the exit door raft rope was hanging into 9D's seat because the door was broken off. I just kept that a little secret as I didn't want to wait for a fix.
Personally, I avoid DTW not because of the CR2, but because of DL's lack of DGS $9.60/hr staff that meet the planes. On my 15-min flight, we sometimes spend more time waiting on DGS ground staff than we do in-flight.
Delta pays great lip-service to the $1B's spent in NYC, now if they truly start people out at $9.60/hr to work the RJ ramps, there's no reason they can't invest in improvements for their CR2 ground service at DTW. At least make what time customers have to spend on those aircraft a minimum.
Personally, I avoid DTW not because of the CR2, but because of DL's lack of DGS $9.60/hr staff that meet the planes. On my 15-min flight, we sometimes spend more time waiting on DGS ground staff than we do in-flight.
Delta pays great lip-service to the $1B's spent in NYC, now if they truly start people out at $9.60/hr to work the RJ ramps, there's no reason they can't invest in improvements for their CR2 ground service at DTW. At least make what time customers have to spend on those aircraft a minimum.
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When they added F a year or two ago, did they do a full refurb of the interior? I've noticed that they seem cleaner also.
Tripit just informed me that my upcoming ASA - sorry, ExpressJet - flight was just delayed half an hour. The inbound is delayed 45 minutes. It begins...
Tripit just informed me that my upcoming ASA - sorry, ExpressJet - flight was just delayed half an hour. The inbound is delayed 45 minutes. It begins...
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"Speed Tape"
Although it often looks like duct tape (and please do tell me if I misunderstood your point), it is called "speed tape," an aluminized tape that is formally approved for aircraft repairs. It is much stronger than duct tape (or any other type of tape) and can be used inside the cabin, or even on the aircraft exterior.
-J.
-J.
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DGS starts people in DTW out at $9.60/hr!? When I worked at OH that would have been my pay after 3 raises and locally DGS starts rampers out at $8. Obviously they attract and retain "top talent" with that amount of pay.