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Originally Posted by smithsonga
(Post 21540566)
I must be missing something, but the MQDs seem quite low. e.g. GM of 50,000 miles and $5k. if you fly 50k miles, who doesnt spend $5k to get there?
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Originally Posted by bdschobel
(Post 21540799)
...I have 133,000 from actual flights, all on Delta. My MQDs are just below $8,000. I don't think that I'm all that unusual, and I'm really not a mileage runner....
The mileage runners can lower this to .05 (and maybe even less on DL) by combining weekend fares with various routing techniques and by keeping an emphasis on very long trips each weekend. These are the first people that DL is looking to cull from the top Medallion tiers. I figure that most of them will find some way around this. :rolleyes: |
Nearly all of my travel is planned months (or even years!) in advance. So I buy cheap tickets -- and who wouldn't? For international flights, I mix it up between riding in coach and business-class award tickets (mostly depending on the time of day). I don't consciously aim for a very low cents-per-mile number; it just seems to happen. But MQDs don't matter to me under Delta's announced plans because I easily spend more than $25,000 per year on my Delta AMEX card. If that exception ever goes away, I'm in trouble!
Bruce |
Originally Posted by bdschobel
(Post 21541224)
...But MQDs don't matter to me under Delta's announced plans because I easily spend more than $25,000 per year on my Delta AMEX card....
However, DL is certainly not the most fertile field for mileage runners since the SkyPesos are so much less valuable than the points on any of the other majors (and the DL routing rules so much more restrictive) that most of that stuff goes on over at UA and, to a slightly lesser degree, at AA. |
Originally Posted by monitor
(Post 21541343)
I would say that most business travelers routinely do that much spend and for many of the mileage runners and leisure travelers, that will be the way around the requirement.
However, DL is certainly not the most fertile field for mileage runners since the SkyPesos are so much less valuable than the points on any of the other majors (and the DL routing rules so much more restrictive) that most of that stuff goes on over at UA and, to a slightly lesser degree, at AA. |
Originally Posted by smithsonga
(Post 21540814)
After looking further...the only way these new rules affect me are some details:
I need to be sure each ticket is a DL flight...e.g. I am flying back on KLM but it is a DL flight operated by KLM On my flights to Asia, I normally use Skyteam partners, especially Korean. the fact those miles do not even count towards my medallion status basically removes them as a partner. I cannot justify a $7-$10k BE seat and not get credit for the miles. This has driven my behavior where I have to fly to ICN later this month and I am flying Delta ATL-DTW-ICN vs. Korean ATL-ICN. I am OK with it only because I just love the new 747 BE seats on the DTW-ICN route, especially upstairs. Honestly, I wish the DM MQD was higher. or they had a higher level. Passengers that spend over $30k+/year on Delta should be rewarded more than someone that got DM with $7k as you mention above (I know, not possible now, but $12.5k is still fairly low). Again, a frequent flyer that doesnt spend money isnt the airlines favorite flyer. Similar to the person that goes to Starbucks everyday to buy a Tall standard coffee and sits in their store taking up a seat for 4 hrs. (given, I would not likely buy those items in the first place out of my own money and corporate allowances may not let me do this.) |
Originally Posted by AA_EXP09
(Post 21544127)
UA has routing rules TATL and TPAC though while DL largely uses MPM fares.
All I knew was that nobody could ever claim to get the same sort of routings on DL that some of these guys were getting on UA. |
Originally Posted by smithsonga
(Post 21540566)
I must be missing something, but the MQDs seem quite low. e.g. GM of 50,000 miles and $5k. if you fly 50k miles, who doesnt spend $5k to get there?
I am DM and about to pass the threshold to get there again this year. the $12.5k MQDs is ridiculously easy to hit. I am flying BE to Europe and Asia this month for a total of $22k spend... However, if this does reduce the # of PM and DMs, all the better to me. :) |
My 2014 parallels in many ways what Kwaj Boy described.
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The "low" MQD requirements will probably eliminate most of the non-biz mileage runners if that is what you're looking for. I suppose that it would be nice to see those shoeless/sockless creatures sitting behind the divider.
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Originally Posted by tigers2007
(Post 21582184)
The "low" MQD requirements will probably eliminate most of the non-biz mileage runners if that is what you're looking for. I suppose that it would be nice to see those shoeless/sockless creatures sitting behind the divider.
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Originally Posted by tigers2007
(Post 21582184)
The "low" MQD requirements will probably eliminate most of the non-biz mileage runners if that is what you're looking for. I suppose that it would be nice to see those shoeless/sockless creatures sitting behind the divider.
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Originally Posted by HongKonger
(Post 21583393)
And what is your basis for saying that those creatures would not qualify under MQDs?
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Originally Posted by Cloudship
(Post 21585094)
The fact that at that cpm, most would either not be able to afford to fly, or would choose not to?
Or, like me, they will simply switch addresses/preferred carriers (which I have done both, though I was never loyal to DL in the first place.) |
Originally Posted by AA_EXP09
(Post 21590907)
They might travel less, but not stop travelling completely.
Or, like me, they will simply switch addresses/preferred carriers (which I have done both, though I was never loyal to DL in the first place.) I think that you can run but that you will not be able to hide forever. |
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