AirFrance.us shows award seats, Delta does not see them
Sep 14, 2012, 10:35 am
#62
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Really confused
Sep 16, 2012, 6:02 am
#63
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I gave up waiting for the AF issues to be resolved, found a KL itinerary (less convenient, but bookable) and held it. When I returned later to redeem it, I saw that someone had changed my itinerary to a different routing, entirely on DL metal. I redeemed immediately as the new routing was more convenient and they honored the Low price of my previous itinerary (otherwise only available at High).
The KL flights are no longer bookable (they appear in the list but error out when selected). All very strange.
The KL flights are no longer bookable (they appear in the list but error out when selected). All very strange.
Sep 16, 2012, 9:57 am
#64
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Sep 16, 2012, 10:11 am
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Sep 16, 2012, 12:21 pm
#66
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On September 13, 2012, a memo was sent to all front line (res) informing that
(a) AF will no longer offer SWU upgrades to J. Same memo informs that
(b) AF vastly reduced the inventory of "O" for miles, and that
(c) KL upgrades will not be offered on "M" fare anymore, but only on fully upgradable fares.
That makes the publication on delta.com
http://www.delta.com/skymiles/about_...erts/index.jsp
plain incorrect. I would even go as far as blaming delta in direct misleading. I believe that a delta representative should step into the discussion now and provide some explanations.
Sep 16, 2012, 12:47 pm
#67
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@deltaassist responded to my request change CDG-IAD on AF W-class that I purchased before the new "policy" to an AMS-IAD on KL (SWUs are available), unfortunately the KL flight fare difference is $900 more:
"At this time the problem hasn't be resolved with SWU's being available to be used on Air France. ^
We will allow a change to KLM without the penalty, however the fare difference will apply. ^"
"At this time the problem hasn't be resolved with SWU's being available to be used on Air France. ^
We will allow a change to KLM without the penalty, however the fare difference will apply. ^"
Sep 16, 2012, 3:08 pm
#68
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(cross posting)
On September 13, 2012, a memo was sent to all front line (res) informing that
(a) AF will no longer offer SWU upgrades to J. Same memo informs that
(b) AF vastly reduced the inventory of "O" for miles, and that
(c) KL upgrades will not be offered on "M" fare anymore, but only on fully upgradable fares.
That makes the publication on delta.com
http://www.delta.com/skymiles/about_...erts/index.jsp
plain incorrect. I would even go as far as blaming delta in direct misleading. I believe that a delta representative should step into the discussion now and provide some explanations.
On September 13, 2012, a memo was sent to all front line (res) informing that
(a) AF will no longer offer SWU upgrades to J. Same memo informs that
(b) AF vastly reduced the inventory of "O" for miles, and that
(c) KL upgrades will not be offered on "M" fare anymore, but only on fully upgradable fares.
That makes the publication on delta.com
http://www.delta.com/skymiles/about_...erts/index.jsp
plain incorrect. I would even go as far as blaming delta in direct misleading. I believe that a delta representative should step into the discussion now and provide some explanations.
Anyone know when the effective date for no more SWU's on AF is?
Sep 16, 2012, 3:29 pm
#69
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Sep 17, 2012, 12:24 pm
#71
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Great, this figures. I booked a JFK>CDG flight on DL 2 weeks ago in hopes of using a SWU to get to Affaires. As with everyone else, the Flying Blue website shows classic upgrade availability, but both EF and DL show no O availability. Leaving next week, so I guess I'm screwed. I would have bought BA if I had known this was going to happen.
Sep 17, 2012, 12:36 pm
#72
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Great, this figures. I booked a JFK>CDG flight on DL 2 weeks ago in hopes of using a SWU to get to Affaires. As with everyone else, the Flying Blue website shows classic upgrade availability, but both EF and DL show no O availability. Leaving next week, so I guess I'm screwed. I would have bought BA if I had known this was going to happen.
Sep 17, 2012, 1:07 pm
#73
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I am finding almost no seats on KLM also using EF. Do you think both AF and KLF are affected or is it just AF. I can see flights on EF on AF (o) from CDG to non USA destinations but cant really find anything at all to the USA
Sep 17, 2012, 5:40 pm
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