Is it just me or did some award levels recently change?
Sep 3, 2012, 7:08 pm
#1
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Is it just me or did some award levels recently change?
Just was looking at some tickets to Mexico and the Caribbean for this winter and noticed many dates with Economy Awards coming out to 55k miles in Mid Level. I remember these always being 50k miles at mid level. Is it just me or did something recently change?? Europe looks goofy to me too. I thought it was 60k/90k/125k, no? Here is the link to the award chart:
http://dmn.delta.com/skymiles/direct/charts/us49/
http://dmn.delta.com/skymiles/direct/charts/us49/
Sep 3, 2012, 10:25 pm
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I think you are definitely right! Several award levels seem to have gone up!
Europe/South America Med/High Y awards went up by 5k each. I believe South Africa went up as well. Anyone have an old chart?
Europe/South America Med/High Y awards went up by 5k each. I believe South Africa went up as well. Anyone have an old chart?
Sep 3, 2012, 10:35 pm
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I was able to find this using archive.org:
(direct link)
For Travel between Continental U.S., Alaska, Canada, and:*
Cabin
Low
Medium
High
Continental U.S., Alaska, Canada
Economy
12,500
20,000
30,000
Premium
22,500
40,000
50,000
Hawaii
Economy
20,000
32,500
45,000
First
37,500
67,500
90,000
Business Elite
42,500
72,500
95,000
Caribbean, Mexico
Economy
17,500
25,000
35,000
Premium
30,000
50,000
70,000
Central America
Economy
17,500
30,000
40,000
Premium
30,000
50,000
70,000
Northern South America
Economy
22,500
35,000
50,000
Premium
45,000
65,000
90,000
Southern South America
Economy
30,000
45,000
62,500
Premium
50,000
100,000
175,000
Europe
Economy
30,000
45,000
62,500
Premium
50,000
100,000
175,000
Africa
Economy
40,000
65,000
95,000
Premium
60,000
115,000
185,000
Middle East
Economy
40,000
65,000
95,000
Premium
60,000
115,000
185,000
India
Economy
40,000
65,000
95,000
Premium
60,000
115,000
185,000
Asia
Economy
30,000
60,000
75,000
Premium
60,000
120,000
185,000
Southwest Pacific
Economy
50,000
70,000
95,000
Premium
75,000
120,000
185,000
*Miles shown are each-way based on a round-trip Award Ticket purchase.
(direct link)
For Travel between Continental U.S., Alaska, Canada, and:*
Cabin
Low
Medium
High
Continental U.S., Alaska, Canada
Economy
12,500
20,000
30,000
Premium
22,500
40,000
50,000
Hawaii
Economy
20,000
32,500
45,000
First
37,500
67,500
90,000
Business Elite
42,500
72,500
95,000
Caribbean, Mexico
Economy
17,500
25,000
35,000
Premium
30,000
50,000
70,000
Central America
Economy
17,500
30,000
40,000
Premium
30,000
50,000
70,000
Northern South America
Economy
22,500
35,000
50,000
Premium
45,000
65,000
90,000
Southern South America
Economy
30,000
45,000
62,500
Premium
50,000
100,000
175,000
Europe
Economy
30,000
45,000
62,500
Premium
50,000
100,000
175,000
Africa
Economy
40,000
65,000
95,000
Premium
60,000
115,000
185,000
Middle East
Economy
40,000
65,000
95,000
Premium
60,000
115,000
185,000
India
Economy
40,000
65,000
95,000
Premium
60,000
115,000
185,000
Asia
Economy
30,000
60,000
75,000
Premium
60,000
120,000
185,000
Southwest Pacific
Economy
50,000
70,000
95,000
Premium
75,000
120,000
185,000
*Miles shown are each-way based on a round-trip Award Ticket purchase.
Last edited by dcline414; Sep 3, 2012 at 10:38 pm Reason: Added link
Sep 3, 2012, 10:58 pm
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Paging Michelle Skymiles so that she can come and let us know we've been surprised and delighted with the changes and now may start a conversation amongst ourselves.
Or will someone suggest this is the fault of the gamers?
Or will someone suggest this is the fault of the gamers?
Last edited by Vuelos; Sep 3, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Sep 3, 2012, 11:08 pm
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Do you mean to say that there :-:may:-: have been some additional unannounced program enhancements???
Sep 3, 2012, 11:11 pm
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. More of a dis-enhancement if you ask me...
Sep 3, 2012, 11:18 pm
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Sep 3, 2012, 11:33 pm
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Well, yeah. Apparently people are complaining and getting a ton of compensation, which made low-tier awards virtually impossible to find. Raising the prices should allow more tickets at every tier... they just cost more now!
Sep 3, 2012, 11:47 pm
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Last edited by davetravels; Sep 4, 2012 at 12:22 am
Sep 4, 2012, 12:11 am
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Just was looking at some tickets to Mexico and the Caribbean for this winter and noticed many dates with Economy Awards coming out to 55k miles in Mid Level. I remember these always being 50k miles at mid level. Is it just me or did something recently change?? Europe looks goofy to me too. I thought it was 60k/90k/125k, no? Here is the link to the award chart:
http://dmn.delta.com/skymiles/direct/charts/us49/
http://dmn.delta.com/skymiles/direct/charts/us49/
Sep 4, 2012, 12:31 am
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I noticed the same. Seems to be from September 1st 
I found an economy award that I booked in August for 125k miles EU > US (I know I booked high level, but I needed that day and flight and prices were at $1,700 cash) and now the same trip shows up at 130k ... (also only high on my dates, but that's another story).
1) Very sad that it happens.
2) Even worse that it happens mid-year and not when new program year starts.
3) Worst that Delta does not communicate such changes.
I found an economy award that I booked in August for 125k miles EU > US (I know I booked high level, but I needed that day and flight and prices were at $1,700 cash) and now the same trip shows up at 130k ... (also only high on my dates, but that's another story).
1) Very sad that it happens.
2) Even worse that it happens mid-year and not when new program year starts.
3) Worst that Delta does not communicate such changes.
Sep 4, 2012, 1:01 am
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Interesting, I saw the same 55K coming up on my searches for DTW-SJO return earlier last night. The award calendar is awash in Medium for economy, but interestingly is showing tons of green for First that wasn't there previously.
I may change vxmikegf's ticket to First for an extra 25K miles and then take my (likely) chance on the free upgrade.
I may change vxmikegf's ticket to First for an extra 25K miles and then take my (likely) chance on the free upgrade.
