SkyWest plane stolen from St. George UT airport
Jul 18, 2012, 10:35 am
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I was out in that area back in May/June ....and this is another bad situation for an airport that I believe was recently redone...I believe 4 college age young adults decided to go joy riding in a plane at the St George airport at like 1230am and they crashed and all died....same airport...same time of night and only a month ago...the airport has some security issues...
Jul 18, 2012, 10:59 am
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My mistake... I had inferred GA, yet didn't call it out.
Jul 18, 2012, 2:02 pm
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... because a) They were departing south, and while that can be somewhat of a factor, it's irrelevant, because the pilot knew the area well enough, and he would have been able to climb out and maintain visual contact with both Mesquite and St. George while enroute. B) There's absolutely nothing wrong with taking off from an unattended airport; Pilots do it every day, night and day.
I'm going to wait for the final NTSB report before I pass judgement on their motivations.
I'm going to wait for the final NTSB report before I pass judgement on their motivations.
Jul 18, 2012, 2:22 pm
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Irrelevant to the discussion. Even when taking off to the north, the eventual flight path would take him around the pattern, and he would depart to the south.
That's certainly a possibility, but I'm going to wait for the final report.
NTSB report months away, but common and reasonable conjecture is that (1) A/C was overweight (4 pretty big guys), and/or (2) A/C was out of CG aft. Video shows it flying OK while still low and in ground effect, then a rapid climbing attitude and probable stall leading to the crash. Pilot may not have been able to get the nose down to avoid the stall. As I said, NTSB report still months away.
Jul 18, 2012, 4:25 pm
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Anyway, we're off-topic.
Jul 18, 2012, 5:27 pm
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It's totally relevant. Which way was the wind blowing at the time? I don't know, but presume the pilot was aware enough to take off into the wind. What path he intended to take after takeoff is what's irrelevant to the discussion. He crashed on takeoff and didn't get far enough to even get into the pattern.
Anyway, we're off-topic.
Anyway, we're off-topic.
Jul 19, 2012, 12:42 am
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Jul 19, 2012, 9:38 am
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The only door that locks on an airliner is the cockpit door. This guy was a qualified Skywest pilot so he would know how to unlock the cockpit door.
Jul 19, 2012, 10:56 am
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The CRJ cockpit doors only lock from the inside. Others do have locks.
Jul 19, 2012, 11:37 am
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Mea Culpa, I didn't realize that you were limiting it strictly to CRJs in which case I'd have to plead ignorance and gladly pay up on the bet. However, I can assure you that I've been locked out of my own cockpit several times on various models of big boy planes by overzealous cleaning crews.
Jul 19, 2012, 1:57 pm
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Jul 19, 2012, 2:07 pm
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More details have emerged about the disappearing Delta widget. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...lane-case.html
It sounds to me like painting over the tail backfired. Instead of directing attention away from Delta, it increased it.
Some have also questioned why SkyWest painted over its logos on the damaged aircraft in the early morning hours following the incident — and why some employees were instructed to erase photos taken of the plane.
Without elaborating, a SkyWest spokeswoman called the decision to paint over the logos a "longstanding industry practice."
Arthur Yann, vice president of the New York based Public Relations Society of America, said it's not a common practice in the airline industry, but it has happened in the past with other airlines.
Yann, who works in public relations but not specifically for any airline company and is not an expert in airline operations, speculated that SkyWest wanted to protect the Delta brand name, since the aircraft Hedglin took belonged to Delta but was being operated by SkyWest.
Still, he said the practice of painting over the logo is one he would advise against.
"One of the hallmarks of good public relations is transparency," he said. "By going out and painting over the tail, I think that just raises more questions than it answers."
The public is generally very forgiving, Yann said. But by painting over a logo, it would appear that an airline is trying to hide something.
Without elaborating, a SkyWest spokeswoman called the decision to paint over the logos a "longstanding industry practice."
Arthur Yann, vice president of the New York based Public Relations Society of America, said it's not a common practice in the airline industry, but it has happened in the past with other airlines.
Yann, who works in public relations but not specifically for any airline company and is not an expert in airline operations, speculated that SkyWest wanted to protect the Delta brand name, since the aircraft Hedglin took belonged to Delta but was being operated by SkyWest.
Still, he said the practice of painting over the logo is one he would advise against.
"One of the hallmarks of good public relations is transparency," he said. "By going out and painting over the tail, I think that just raises more questions than it answers."
The public is generally very forgiving, Yann said. But by painting over a logo, it would appear that an airline is trying to hide something.