Skymiles Change Rumor?
Dec 28, 2012, 6:45 am
#2806
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(Even my own flying-personal flying averages about 1.7cpm, business travel averages close to 10)
Dec 28, 2012, 6:57 am
#2807
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Possible impact of SDC on a US bound international flight. It wasn't an SDC internationally, but similar -- I took a VDB bump from NRT-DTW and on to DCA to NRT-SFO and on to DCA via MSP. It seems to have screwed up my Global Entry record -- when I arrived at SFO the machine told me I wasn't on the flight and I had to see an immigration officer -- not a big deal, still bypassed the line.
Dec 28, 2012, 7:33 am
#2808
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In 3 months this thread will celebrate its one year aniversiary. On that date can FT please delete it!
Dec 28, 2012, 7:42 am
#2809
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Dec 28, 2012, 8:11 am
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i do love the paranoid delusions. maybe keep it going for a while longer! But seriously the only thing this thread has done is to cause agita for alot of us. I don't believe that any changes that may or may not come will be huge or a game change. A very quick view of a few of my reasons are that DL would be alone amongst the legacies to do this, leaving a big defection on there table. Dl has alot of relationships with partners such as AS that would be affected. Example, Would a skymiles member traveling on alaska get full MQM but a AS MVP member flying on DL metal get a fraction which is not in line with the AS program. DL's relationship with amex is based on miles, that would be quite complex to change......I could go on with lots more. The system is not anywhere near broken enough to make it worth "fixing". The negative and huge consequences outweigh any positive for DL to make the changes that some have proposed here!
Dec 28, 2012, 8:23 am
#2811
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i do love the paranoid delusions. maybe keep it going for a while longer! But seriously the only thing this thread has done is to cause agita for alot of us. I don't believe that any changes that may or may not come will be huge or a game change. A very quick view of a few of my reasons are that DL would be alone amongst the legacies to do this, leaving a big defection on there table. Dl has alot of relationships with partners such as AS that would be affected. Example, Would a skymiles member traveling on alaska get full MQM but a AS MVP member flying on DL metal get a fraction which is not in line with the AS program. DL's relationship with amex is based on miles, that would be quite complex to change......I could go on with lots more. The system is not anywhere near broken enough to make it worth "fixing". The negative and huge consequences outweigh any positive for DL to make the changes that some have proposed here!
Also, why does DL care how many DM's, PM's, etc they have? So more DM's mean less comp upgrades for PM's. I don't think delta is all that concerned about that (FCM clearly shows DL's priorities!). The only real issue is having too many DM/PM's can dilute the value of the product but I still think it's profitable for Delta. So they need to staff a few more agents to work the PM/DM phone line. That's easily justifiable to their bottom line considering those DM's/PM's spend thousands of dollars with DL/AMEX to get where they are.
Dec 28, 2012, 8:42 am
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In the "good old days" before everything was so connected you had to show your shiny card to prove your status. Now days there is no reason DL can't keep track of DM, DM+, DM++ etc internally and single ones out for special treatment (ride in a Porsche, order of OpUps, etc).
Dec 28, 2012, 9:13 am
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Dec 28, 2012, 9:14 am
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i do love the paranoid delusions. maybe keep it going for a while longer! But seriously the only thing this thread has done is to cause agita for alot of us. I don't believe that any changes that may or may not come will be huge or a game change. A very quick view of a few of my reasons are that DL would be alone amongst the legacies to do this, leaving a big defection on there table. Dl has alot of relationships with partners such as AS that would be affected. Example, Would a skymiles member traveling on alaska get full MQM but a AS MVP member flying on DL metal get a fraction which is not in line with the AS program. DL's relationship with amex is based on miles, that would be quite complex to change......I could go on with lots more. The system is not anywhere near broken enough to make it worth "fixing". The negative and huge consequences outweigh any positive for DL to make the changes that some have proposed here!
Dec 28, 2012, 10:12 am
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i do love the paranoid delusions. maybe keep it going for a while longer! But seriously the only thing this thread has done is to cause agita for alot of us. I don't believe that any changes that may or may not come will be huge or a game change. A very quick view of a few of my reasons are that DL would be alone amongst the legacies to do this, leaving a big defection on there table. Dl has alot of relationships with partners such as AS that would be affected. Example, Would a skymiles member traveling on alaska get full MQM but a AS MVP member flying on DL metal get a fraction which is not in line with the AS program. DL's relationship with amex is based on miles, that would be quite complex to change......I could go on with lots more. The system is not anywhere near broken enough to make it worth "fixing". The negative and huge consequences outweigh any positive for DL to make the changes that some have proposed here!
Last edited by javabytes; Dec 28, 2012 at 10:20 am
Dec 28, 2012, 10:59 am
#2816
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The only thing!!!!?????!!!!
It's provided entertainment to many of us who are able to read the predictions - both reasonable and far-fetched - without being emotionally or intellectually invested. Taking this thread down would be like buying the Mona Lisa from Da Vinci before the smile was painted, or walking out of your first watching of No Way Out before the last five minutes, or eating bread dough before it goes in the oven.
As entertaining as this thread was before, it will be a gift that keeps giving when some of the predictions don't originally come true but are then implemented later down the line.
Dec 28, 2012, 11:59 am
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Dec 28, 2012, 12:40 pm
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While AS has many loyal flyers and a fine product in the grand scheme it is small potatoes.
Dec 28, 2012, 2:12 pm
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