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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 2:26 pm
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 2:42 pm
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Trailer park kettle??? So a person's credibility is based on his attire? You can dress a monkey in a Brooks Brothers suit, but it's still a monkey.

You must be someone special.
I was more basing it on the overall look and grammar. Sorry to infer that it was based on the other guy's suit... That was not my intent.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 2:44 pm
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I'm gussing the B767 will be inspected at BOS and if deemed able to fly sans winglet will be ferried empty with just pilots to ATL for full repair. (Or if unable a new winglet could be shipped to BOS and installed there)

The CRJ didn't as fare well. I don't know if SkyWest/ASA has maint in BOS? If not it could be broken down (wings removed) and trucked to another facility.
I just saw the picture posted on ABC. Looked bad.... The fire eigne parked next to the
RJ said "A55PORT FIRE RESCUE" on the top. (5 is S) The photographer didn't
realize it before posting it online? Should have zoomed out or changed angles so the
whole "MASSPORT FIRE RESCUE" could be shown.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 3:11 pm
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Location on the field of the accident: http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...ogan_accident/

Also, the CVR and FDR from both aircraft have apparently been pulled and sent to D.C.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 3:42 pm
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Does anyone know exactly where this happened? Was it at the Terminal A ramp? Or further down near the FEDEX ramp? Or even further out on the main taxiways?
Pictures seem to have different angles but signs for 22L/4R appear in the background. One pic has a bridge in the background Mass (Turnpike?) which indicates the camera for that pic is North of the aircraft. It's apparent not all the pictures were from the same location. We do know we're talking left winglet and left horizontal stab.

Then a video with a BOS spokesperson said the 767 was taxiing on Bravo.

I've been pulling my hair out looking at pictures, runway maps and google maps to get a perspective on landmarks and will take a guess... probably to be proved wrong when airport camera video is released.

SWAG (you know what that means) ... the RG was holding a bit shorter than the hold short marking of 4L on Echo or Kilo adjacent to Bravo.

That would be very close to the southern end of the passenger terminal where 4 taxiways intersect in not a lot of space.

OK now I'm really confused... http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/l...d-to-accident/ at 1:47 shows the 4L-APCH hold short markers. But the aircraft is facing the opposite way and off the steerlines it was on during daylight. Did they tow it there to clear the taxiway as that doesn't seem to jive with daylight pictures.

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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn
"Two Delta Jets Collide" makes it sound as though it might have been a midair collision. Perhaps one of the mods can de-sensationalize the thread title.
I think the OP did better than Boston.com, IMHO. They have the headline as "Jet Crash on Logan Taxiway."
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 8:35 pm
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Yeah the newspapers here and even TV can't decide what they want to call the incident.

Yes they towed the RJ off the taxiway so some of the up close pictures are from where it was parked. Not sure which pic you're referring to with a bridge in the background. From the airport its only the masspike extension which is mostly underwater and only bridges are just overpass ramps at the airport entrance and can't be seen since that is all on the other side of Term-A. Google map has a decent aerial satellite view of the airport.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan
Yeah the newspapers here and even TV can't decide what they want to call the incident.

Yes they towed the RJ off the taxiway so some of the up close pictures are from where it was parked. Not sure which pic you're referring to with a bridge in the background. From the airport its only the masspike extension which is mostly underwater and only bridges are just overpass ramps at the airport entrance and can't be seen since that is all on the other side of Term-A. Google map has a decent aerial satellite view of the airport.
Good to know... seeing the RJ parked pointed the wrong way from the 4L-APCH hold short lines just wasn't right.

Yes, I've looked at the aerial view... I mistakenly had road and satellite hybrid not realizing the turnpike was a tunnel.

Looking at it again the bridge in the picture http://www.bostonherald.com/gallerie...ry_id=5530&p=0 would be the one labelled in Google Maps as both Long Island Rd. Moon Island Rd. and also Bridge to Recovery.

Which would mean nearly all the daylight pictures I've seen were taken from roughly the same vantage point. And I'll revise my guess to the intersection of taxiways Mike and Bravo as that would jive with everything I see in that one picture.

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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 9:05 pm
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Oh yup I see it... yeah one of the short bridges to the little islands in the harbor area. Wonder when the results of the investigation will come out as to who was at fault.
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan
Oh yup I see it... yeah one of the short bridges to the little islands in the harbor area. Wonder when the results of the investigation will come out as to who was at fault.
Has there been any official report assigning fault for the incident at JFK with the AF A380 and the Delta connect RJ?
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by Burj
Has there been any official report assigning fault for the incident at JFK with the AF A380 and the Delta connect RJ?
Not yet.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Burj
Has there been any official report assigning fault for the incident at JFK with the AF A380 and the Delta connect RJ?
NTSB is still investigating

http://articles.boston.com/2011-07-1...ers-larger-jet

[NTSB] spokesman Peter Knudson said yesterday that the agency has already sent the flight data and cockpit voice recorders from Delta Flight 266 and Atlantic Southeast Flight 4904 to its labs in Washington.

It will take 10 business days before the agency issues a preliminary report, but it will take much longer before investigators identify the cause of the crash, Knudson said. Investigators will review recordings from the airport’s new ground radar system, interview crews from both aircraft and the air traffic controllers directing them, and inspect the planes to document what happened.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 2:47 pm
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I guess that new multi-million dollar ground avoidance radar warning system in BOS doesn't help much huh....
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by ToniCounter
(1) now we know that Air France Airbus A380 isn't the only one who can do somethign like this

That was the first thing that went through my mind
Is it a major set back for Boeing as is claimed when an A 380 has clipped a baby jet?
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(2) Boeing makes a better, tougher plane, because the 767 managed to brake the RJ's tail, which the Airbus A380 couldn't do
Or Boeing makes shoddy planes as it could not even brake an RJ's tail?

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(3) when selecting seats on RJ flights, do NOT choose seats in the rear[

Another reason getting upgraded or travelling in F on a small plane.
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