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Old Jan 3, 2019, 8:04 pm
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Got another $160 offer on SEA - RDU on return from a business trip

Declining this time since I'm traveling with wife (on a corresponding award ticket) but amazing to see again as they try to also sucker me with a $65 offer on a separate RDU - EWR flight (which I of course declined knowing I would clear at the PM window which I did). Sometimes the pricing baffles me.
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Old Jan 3, 2019, 8:46 pm
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I've generally had decent FCM offers on the routes I fly, but the last 30 days have seen a massive increase in FC pricing. For example, on a leg I'm flying on Feb 11th, MCO-SEA, Delta is asking $799! I paid $250 for the same damn route a couple months ago. And it's not just THIS route; I almost always see $350-400 FCM offers on either MSP-SEA or DTW-SEA (or the reverse direction) and now they're all $500+. Is anyone else seeing such huge increases?
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 8:17 am
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im being offerred FCM on an award flight. I did not know that was even possible. Atl to BNA in a wide open f cabin 7 days from departure for $140? should i take it??? (not serious)
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 8:23 am
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$368 each way to upgrade to F on SJC-ATL. This is on a 737-900 and F has most window seats empty right now. The whole return ticket in Y was around $400, so no go Delta, thank you very much.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by JoelThomas
Current FCM offers:
MSP-SLC on A321 $157 or 14,600 miles
SLC-SFO on A319 $213 or 19,900 miles
No C+ offers and no bundle & save offer

SFO-MSP on 739ER $191 or 17,800 miles for F, $89 or 8300 miles for C+
MSP-MDW on CR7 $89 or 8300 miles for F, $33 or 3100 miles for C+
Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
Considering you have silver status I would pay the $191 for first-class between San Francisco and Minneapolis. There's no way you will ever get that upgrade.
I felt the same way you did and paid for the F seat. Flight went out with at least 2 empty seats in F.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by JoelThomas
I felt the same way you did and paid for the F seat. Flight went out with at least 2 empty seats in F.
And it could have gone out with 35 people on the upgrade list. Did you look at the actual upgrade list? It isn't uncommon for lazy gate agents not to process upgrades and instead let seats go unfilled.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:24 am
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Booked STL-PDX w/ 11,500 miles. Offered and accepted STL-MSP ($73) and MSP-PDX ($160). Upgrade w/ miles priced at 1.07 cpm.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
And it could have gone out with 35 people on the upgrade list. Did you look at the actual upgrade list? It isn't uncommon for lazy gate agents not to process upgrades and instead let seats go unfilled.
Oh I agree. Not regretting it, just was surprised that it wasn't full. UG list was fully processed.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 12:03 pm
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Offered $160 from Y to Delta One with lie flats on a 764, PHX to MSP.
1:40p to 6:30p flight, not sure if dinner served?
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawkeyefan
Offered $160 from Y to Delta One with lie flats on a 764, PHX to MSP.
1:40p to 6:30p flight, not sure if dinner served?
I didn't know they offered D1 on the PHX routes.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 2:15 pm
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it's probably a one-off repositioning flight (after a football charter?) ... lunch service is much more likely than dinner at that time
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 8:57 pm
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Bit on a MSP-SFO offer, $181 or 16,900 miles. Cabin was showing 14 seats remaining up front and 6 in C+, so I wasnt feeling particularly optimistic as were about three weeks away. 70 cents/min and the potential flexibility for SDC made me keen.

Interesringly, the reservation now shows me in the Z bucket, but the receipt still shows the underlying V fare I booked. Is this typical on FCM offers paid with cash as well, or just something unique to pay with miles?



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Old Jan 4, 2019, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by ElliottMB
Bit on a MSP-SFO offer, $181 or 16,900 miles. Cabin was showing 14 seats remaining up front and 6 in C+, so I wasnt feeling particularly optimistic as were about three weeks away. 70 cents/min and the potential flexibility for SDC made me keen.

Interesringly, the reservation now shows me in the Z bucket, but the receipt still shows the underlying V fare I booked. Is this typical on FCM offers paid with cash as well, or just something unique to pay with miles?



In my prior experiences the receipt never updates the fare class but the miles and miles bonus do post in line with the Z class you have showing
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Old Jan 5, 2019, 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by Duke787
In my prior experiences the receipt never updates the fare class but the miles and miles bonus do post in line with the Z class you have showing
thanks for the insight!
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Old Jan 6, 2019, 7:14 pm
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Offered a first-class buy-up for $638.55 between Detroit and Cincinnati on a CRJ-900!

Another outrageous buy-up offer was $299.93 for first-class between Salt Lake City and Detroit on a 737-900.
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Last edited by hockeyinsider; Jan 7, 2019 at 5:50 am Reason: typo
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