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FullTimeFlyer May 30, 2015 8:46 am


Originally Posted by jamesteroh (Post 24890293)
...no reason to be loyal to Delta if they aren't valuing a passengers loyalty.

Well then, you should be sure not to (be loyal), because they sure are not (valuing it).

FTF

cmd320 May 30, 2015 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by Sabai (Post 24891743)
I hope that AA doesn't do this; their domestic F is still worth paying for.

It's rapidly declining though. Today's product is a shadow of what it was a year ago at this point.

ATL787 May 30, 2015 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by brocklee9000 (Post 24888734)
I'm actually only in Utah for school. Once I'm done with my degree and flight training, I'm off to whatever airline will give me the time of day.

However, I am from Texas, hence the vernacular.

Close enough. Future DL employee, or other airline employee (if not already, which is what I suspect).

MrAndy1369 May 30, 2015 5:01 pm


Originally Posted by Sabai (Post 24891743)
I hope that AA doesn't do this; their domestic F is still worth paying for.

Have you flown AA F since Sept. 2014?

brocklee9000 May 30, 2015 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by ATL787 (Post 24893591)
Close enough. Future DL employee, or other airline employee (if not already, which is what I suspect).

Nah, if I was an airline employee, I'd probably be nonrevving haha. And honestly, I'll take pretty much whatever flying gig that comes my way when I graduate, except maybe Great Lakes Airlines, or aerial banner towing.

KDCAflyer Jun 1, 2015 8:48 pm

Looked through some of the earlier posts, but couldn't find a concrete answer:

Is it possible to only upgrade a single segment on a multi-stop itinerary if offered a FCM upgrade? I only want to upgrade the longest segment of the itinerary.

sethb Jun 1, 2015 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by WWads (Post 24904485)
Looked through some of the earlier posts, but couldn't find a concrete answer:

Is it possible to only upgrade a single segment on a multi-stop itinerary if offered a FCM upgrade? I only want to upgrade the longest segment of the itinerary.

If you're offered a paid upgrade at the gate, that's often (maybe always) for the single segment.

KDCAflyer Jun 1, 2015 9:46 pm


Originally Posted by sethb (Post 24904599)
If you're offered a paid upgrade at the gate, that's often (maybe always) for the single segment.

I'm referring to the offers on Delta.com, or the app. At gate paid upgrades almost never happen anymore, IIRC.

n7371f Jun 1, 2015 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by MrAndy1369 (Post 24893608)
Have you flown AA F since Sept. 2014?

Haha. It's USAirways first class now. It was so bad initially I believe AA has made one or two announced "enhancements" to its service.

eeb100k Jun 1, 2015 10:15 pm


Originally Posted by MrAndy1369 (Post 24893608)
Have you flown AA F since Sept. 2014?

^ This! AA F is sad sad sad now. Switched and happy about it.

KDCAflyer Jun 1, 2015 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by eeb100k (Post 24904766)
^ This! AA F is sad sad sad now. Switched and happy about it.

I haven't heard good things about AA 737-800 first, which seems to be the primary mainline plane that AA flies domestically at this point. The meals also appear to be downright inedible in most cases.

So I guess the breakdown of the big three carriers goes as follows:

Delta if you care about OTP, baggage handling, and service.

AA if you care about a good FF program.

United if you care about none of those things (or are a hub captive).

At the end of the day, you just can't have it all it seems...

Beckles Jun 2, 2015 6:16 am


Originally Posted by MrAndy1369 (Post 24893608)
Have you flown AA F since Sept. 2014?

As a short-haul flyer primarily AA's F service could not have gotten any worse than I used to experience, and honestly it seems to have improved with better snacks and more frequent PDB, which is consistent with US service levels.

gooselee Jun 2, 2015 7:13 am


Originally Posted by WWads (Post 24904485)
Looked through some of the earlier posts, but couldn't find a concrete answer:

Is it possible to only upgrade a single segment on a multi-stop itinerary if offered a FCM upgrade? I only want to upgrade the longest segment of the itinerary.

I often call in to do an FCM buy-up, and the agent always asks (if I haven't already specified) whether I want to upgrade all legs or just certain ones. So, it seems possible.

However, since I'm ATL-based, most of my routes are nonstop. I suspect that you must actually upgrade an entire fare segment at once. In theory you could break the fare (e.g., change BHM-(Y)-ATL-(Y)-LAS to BHM-(Y)-ATL-(F)-LAS), but in most cases, I'd suspect that the combination of the broken Y/F fares is actually more expensive than the through F fare.

thoiboi Jun 2, 2015 7:18 am

I've been able to break my fares and upgrade only one segment at a time no problem.


the longer segments I pay up for and the shorter ones are usually upgraded for me anyway so as a data point, it is indeed possible.

sethb Jun 2, 2015 8:02 am


Originally Posted by WWads (Post 24904658)
I'm referring to the offers on Delta.com, or the app. At gate paid upgrades almost never happen anymore, IIRC.

I noticed, and that's surprising (considering that they only happened when medallion upgrades didn't fill F, so it's free money that doesn't cost goodwill).


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