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jrl767 Jun 12, 2015 11:47 am


Originally Posted by jamesteroh (Post 24960477)
They must be really be FCM'ing ORD to DTW. ...
I flew this route a few weeks ago and every first class seat was sold. For my flight on this route this Sunday seat map has been showing full since at least Monday.

Why anyone would pay for FCM flight is beyond me. Half the time they don't do a PDB service on this flight and you can get two drinks max in the air.


Originally Posted by woodford02A (Post 24960578)
Perhaps lots of people connecting onwards ... are flying Premium class the entire journey? ... You've got to think about this big picture and all the different ways those seats could be filled.

this, many times over

I ride up front WAS<-->JFK and WAS<-->DTW a lot en route to/from SEA, but no way would I bother with G/A/P fares on those routes unless there was a really compelling reason ... or a sighting such as

Originally Posted by DL-Don (Post 24960505)


sethb Jun 12, 2015 11:59 am


Originally Posted by jamesteroh (Post 24960477)
They must be really be FCM'ing ORD to DTW. I always got this upgrade as a DIA and 80+ percent of the time as PM.

I flew this route a few weeks ago and every first class seat was sold. For my flight on this route this Sunday seat map has been showing full since at least Monday.

Why anyone would pay for FCM flight is beyond me. Half the time they don't do a PDB service on this flight and you can get two drinks max in the air.

Maybe FCM is free (or less), and maybe those pax are on connecting flights.

I'd pay $5 to upgrade ORD to DTW for the MQMs alone.

sethb Jun 12, 2015 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by DL-Don (Post 24960505)

The cheapest I've seen is $-500. (MSP-LGA, same day)

monitor Jun 12, 2015 1:20 pm

Ever since they put in the Shuttle planes with first class, I have been upgraded every time between DCA and LGA.

Yesterday, the FC cabin on the 4PM to LGA was sold out (as were all between 2 and 6) and I was number 7:eek: on the UG list.

Number 7???? I've never been number 7 for any upgrade, especially with a K fare. :mad:

KDCAflyer Jun 12, 2015 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 24961191)
Ever since they put in the Shuttle planes with first class, I have been upgraded every time between DCA and LGA.

Yesterday, the FC cabin on the 4PM to LGA was sold out (as were all between 2 and 6) and I was number 7:eek: on the UG list.

Number 7???? I've never been number 7 for any upgrade, especially with a K fare. :mad:

What I'd like to know is who would pay for an upgrade on a 40 minute flight (or buy F outright).

EZEDoesIt Jun 12, 2015 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by WWads (Post 24961662)
What I'd like to know is who would pay for an upgrade on a 40 minute flight (or buy F outright).

I refused to pay DCA-JFK and got the upgrade even with a non-status companion.

KDCAflyer Jun 12, 2015 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by EZEDoesIt (Post 24961678)
I refused to pay DCA-JFK and got the upgrade even with a non-status companion.

DCA-JFK is pretty easy, IIRC. It's also a pretty cheap route cash-wise.

EZEDoesIt Jun 12, 2015 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by WWads (Post 24961717)
It's also a pretty cheap route cash-wise.

I was rather surprised how cheap it was to purchase a o/w. I assumed it was designed as a feeder for TATL flights and would be priced high for o/d.

Esltroy Jun 12, 2015 4:12 pm

Ok I finally broke down and participated in fcm. I am meeting up with my family in MSN this fall to fly out to Costa Rica.

I had a travel voucher, so I used that to pay for my round trip. My mother ended up deciding to take a different flight after I had already booked my flights. So she will arrive a couple hours after I arrive.

So now we are not on the same flights. I figured I would get upgraded the whole way, but now that we are not on the same flights, I could just keep my flights or do SDC. The problem is that whenever I do SDC, I usually end up in coach after clearing the standby list.

When I first booked the tickets the fcm price was 355.00 round trip. Which I thought was not that bad. I waited a few days and it got down to 207.00 today. So I booked it. My thinking is that I can use the extra mcm and I can now SDC into First class and fly with mom.

EZEDoesIt Jun 12, 2015 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by Esltroy (Post 24961964)
My mother ended up deciding to take a different flight after I had already booked my flights. So she will arrive a couple hours after I arrive.

Why didn't you book Mom's ticket for her? :p

Will you give her your seat up front? :D

But....... How do you plan to SDC on an int'l ticket?!!

miraclebear2003 Jun 12, 2015 5:50 pm

[QUOTE=jamesteroh;24960477]They must be really be FCM'ing ORD to DTW. I always got this upgrade as a DIA and 80+ percent of the time as PM.

I flew this route a few weeks ago and every first class seat was sold. For my flight on this route this Sunday seat map has been showing full since at least M



I'm assuming you're in the main cabin and if you're checking on delta.dumb, it will show FC as unavailable. The latest enhancement.

JHIN Jun 12, 2015 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by DL-Don (Post 24960505)

In late March SEA-ALB via DTW priced out at $498 coach but $399 F - no brainer!

KDCAflyer Jun 12, 2015 11:11 pm

I wonder if Delta is finally realizing that selling 80% of F class seats (at actual first class prices) is unrealistic, but in order to save face, is now selling them for barely more than coach. I'm sure Anderson is hoping that the shareholders are too stupid to notice (which could very well be the case).

Then again, the only FCM offers I've ever gotten have been garbage, so what do I know...
I'm also a shareholder, and I certainly notice (and I voted against Anderson on my shareholders' meeting proxy ballot).

FullTimeFlyer Jun 13, 2015 9:31 am


Originally Posted by miraclebear2003 (Post 24962305)
The latest enhancement.

Yup, just another gratuitous kick in face from DL. Now if you want to have a look what's happening you have to go to the completely wasted effort of making a dummy booking. Would love to hear what they think they are accomplishing for anyone by blanking out all the available seats.

FTF

FullTimeFlyer Jun 13, 2015 9:40 am


Originally Posted by sethb (Post 24960791)
I'd pay $5 to upgrade ORD to DTW for the MQMs alone.

(and also re: the similar comment by Elstroy about getting the extra mqm)

OK, now I'm confused. I thought I read earlier that if you took a FQM monetization offer you didn't actually get extra MQM, rather it was like paying a fee, which gets you no credit.

Did I misunderstand? What exactly does happen if, for example, you pay en extra $300 for a transcon. How many more MQM do you get? Did I miss that and what you don't get is more RDM or more MQD or some other thing DL has inflicted on us?

Sorry to break it down but I'd really like to know since it would affect my willingness to take these cursed things, and I can't just jump back through 165 pages.

If for example I flew SAN-JFK as a Plat for a $300 1-way fare I'd expect about 2450 or so MQM and 2700 (9X) RDM and 300 MQD. What would I get if I took the $300 FCM offer?

Many thanks for helping the confused...

FTF


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