New competition on MSP-LON
Mar 18, 2010, 12:16 am
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My guess is free in F and BOB in Y. Though SY is fairly reasonable cost wise for the BOB products.
+1 on the price. But Petters hasn't been the owner in some time. Technically the US Gov't owns them as it's a profitable company in receivership. I just don't think Gimmicks are something the receiver would have them enter into. I also think they are filling the void that was left by Hobbit and Iceland Air has shown the 1-stop narrow body routes to Europe ex-MSP can work.
Be that as it may, the question is will this result in any changes from DL. Previously NW did a pretty good job matching prices of SY. Is superior routing and product enough for DL to get an extra $2000 on a family of 4 traveling?
+1 on the price. But Petters hasn't been the owner in some time. Technically the US Gov't owns them as it's a profitable company in receivership. I just don't think Gimmicks are something the receiver would have them enter into. I also think they are filling the void that was left by Hobbit and Iceland Air has shown the 1-stop narrow body routes to Europe ex-MSP can work.
Be that as it may, the question is will this result in any changes from DL. Previously NW did a pretty good job matching prices of SY. Is superior routing and product enough for DL to get an extra $2000 on a family of 4 traveling?
Iceland Air at least stopped somewhere that you might visit. We actually flew Iceland air to Oslo one year because the overall itinerary was several hours shorter than what we were offered on NW/KL through AMS.
I doubt DL is sweating this. Sun Country doesn't interline with anyone, and with only one RT a week their appeal will be to a very limited audience.
Mar 18, 2010, 2:02 am
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Mar 18, 2010, 6:44 am
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Mar 18, 2010, 7:11 am
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A few thoughts:
1) I would not be inclined to take this flight.
2) I can't see how a single one-stop flight per week is going to dramatically change the competitive dynamic. There is already tons of capacity to and from London and this hardly registers. Were it genuinely non-stop and more frequent, perhaps it might put some fear into DL, but they already compete with a lot of one-stop options as it is.
3) I'm not sure this is as bad of an option as it might appear at first glance. Is it really that much worse than an RJ + 752 routing on CO? Or a 752 on JFK-CPH with DL? I don't particularly like to fly narrow-bodies for such long flights, but plenty of people do it every day.
1) I would not be inclined to take this flight.
2) I can't see how a single one-stop flight per week is going to dramatically change the competitive dynamic. There is already tons of capacity to and from London and this hardly registers. Were it genuinely non-stop and more frequent, perhaps it might put some fear into DL, but they already compete with a lot of one-stop options as it is.
3) I'm not sure this is as bad of an option as it might appear at first glance. Is it really that much worse than an RJ + 752 routing on CO? Or a 752 on JFK-CPH with DL? I don't particularly like to fly narrow-bodies for such long flights, but plenty of people do it every day.
Mar 18, 2010, 7:29 am
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People forget that most of the real world does not consist of frequent flyers who fly in F and stay at Hiltons.
Mar 18, 2010, 9:22 am
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Apr 25, 2010, 4:18 am
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For a family of 4, that's about $2,000 worth of thinking.
Personally, I suspect this is just a gimmick to enhance the marketability of Sun Country & pay more of Tom Petters' reparations.
Tom Petters, owner of Sun Country
Personally, I suspect this is just a gimmick to enhance the marketability of Sun Country & pay more of Tom Petters' reparations.
Tom Petters, owner of Sun Country