Certain look required for first class?
#16
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Im a Gold Medallion at age 19. You should see the dirty looks I get from people when standing in the first/medallion line. I just recently got upgraded to BE LAX-JFK and the people doing the walk back to coach were looking at me like I should die.
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#19
Join Date: Oct 2009
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I just write down their name and the time/place of the incident if they seem condescending and fire it off on the website.
A simple "the regular line is over there" 1 time just seems like they are trying to protect the F line and I respect that. Repeating that after I state I'm in the right line or saying I don't look like I belong there gets a letter from me.
A simple "the regular line is over there" 1 time just seems like they are trying to protect the F line and I respect that. Repeating that after I state I'm in the right line or saying I don't look like I belong there gets a letter from me.
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About a decade ago, when I looked very young (but was wearing a business suit), a GA pointedly looked me up and down and then announced loudly "YOU couldn't POSSIBLY be in FC" when I tried to board with my row. (I'm white.) I said something like "hey, you idiot, before you insult me, please bother to look at my boarding pass and especially look at the price of my ticket" (paper ticket days and I'm not sure how clearly status showed on boarding passes then). I then filed a complaint with the purser by demanding a complaint form upon boarding. My reaction could get one kicked off the plane in today's climate.
#21
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I can't remember if I've ever worn anything above dockers/button down in F, and that's maybe once or twice. Every time I've flown WBC, it was in shorts/polo (hey, might as well be comfortable!). 99% of the time, it's about how you act, not how you dress. It's the other 1% that gets irritating.
#22
Join Date: Nov 2002
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On average I dress business casual with at least sport coat while going through airport and on-board. However, often, particularly for any longer flight I trade my sport coat for a hooded sweatshirt or flece with baseball cap to stay warm.
Im trying to think of if/when an agent at ticket/check-in counter ever gave me attitude like that, Im sure along the way it has happened however does not ring a bell.
OTOH, I have encountered people in 1st class/biz class/elite lines who have given me attitude, likewise an occasinal GA with attitude until I present boarding pass, FF card etc. Have also run into some attitude from FAs or pursors in WBC/F.
Had one pursor who gave me some real attitude about being upgraded into WBC on an AMS-MSP flight that I should be back with the other tourists (I had been confirmed upgraded on miles, no opup, then due to double booking, had to give up seat for what turned out to be a no show).
Later in the flight I mentioned to the pursor that it was not an issue for me that I was that last one to be asked what I wanted for dinner after others were taken care of as I knew they were busy and that on other WBC flights I had my share of being asked first for selection.
He asked what I meant and I explained my other travels and then he asked about my status and I shared with him, he disappeared, saw him looking at spil, then came back and was my new friend. Saw him on a different flight and he remembered me, needless to say I was not the last to be served .
However more often than not, if not in all situations once they look at spill/manifest or I show/tell them my status, travel habits their attitude changes 180 degrees. Especialy if Im polite too them while they are terse or unfriendly with me, at some point they thaw out which is probally a good case for having status info including MM on the manifests.
-H
Im trying to think of if/when an agent at ticket/check-in counter ever gave me attitude like that, Im sure along the way it has happened however does not ring a bell.
OTOH, I have encountered people in 1st class/biz class/elite lines who have given me attitude, likewise an occasinal GA with attitude until I present boarding pass, FF card etc. Have also run into some attitude from FAs or pursors in WBC/F.
Had one pursor who gave me some real attitude about being upgraded into WBC on an AMS-MSP flight that I should be back with the other tourists (I had been confirmed upgraded on miles, no opup, then due to double booking, had to give up seat for what turned out to be a no show).
Later in the flight I mentioned to the pursor that it was not an issue for me that I was that last one to be asked what I wanted for dinner after others were taken care of as I knew they were busy and that on other WBC flights I had my share of being asked first for selection.
He asked what I meant and I explained my other travels and then he asked about my status and I shared with him, he disappeared, saw him looking at spil, then came back and was my new friend. Saw him on a different flight and he remembered me, needless to say I was not the last to be served .
However more often than not, if not in all situations once they look at spill/manifest or I show/tell them my status, travel habits their attitude changes 180 degrees. Especialy if Im polite too them while they are terse or unfriendly with me, at some point they thaw out which is probally a good case for having status info including MM on the manifests.
-H
#23
Join Date: Jun 2004
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In any case, I've had nothing but bad experiences with Delta there - rude Sky Club agents (no, we won't help you... what do you mean, the CVG sky club could do that?), rude ticket agents, and my personal favorite, the inevitable SEAT REQUEST cards that I never seem to encounter anywhere else.
Dave
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#26
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I am 29 and I fly F in shorts, hooded sweatshirt and ballcap every other week and have never had a problem with NW. Apparently I missed the merger memo on dress code changes.
#27
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ORF
Programs: DL FO; > 6'8" FF club
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I can't remember if I've ever worn anything above dockers/button down in F, and that's maybe once or twice. Every time I've flown WBC, it was in shorts/polo (hey, might as well be comfortable!). 99% of the time, it's about how you act, not how you dress. It's the other 1% that gets irritating.
I showed up at SEA in fleece and the elite check in staff went so far as to check me in as another passenger with the same last name and no status...This was even with my ID present.
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I dress for the occasion of what I'm flying to - I'm not trying to dress to impress on a plane. I have some basic personal standards (ie I'm not going to be wearing a torn, tattered t-shirt; however, that's more because I just wouldn't wear it in public), but 95% of the time I'm wearing jeans (don't wear shorts on planes just because I find planes can get pretty cold) and a t-shirt. I've only had a couple of problems with agents raising their eyebrows, but it's not my problem that I'm 24, a Plat and in F.
#30
Join Date: Jan 2007
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I disagree. In my opinion, saying "folks should dress nicely when they fly" doesn't ipso facto make you a judgmental fashionista. For example, I saw a guy on a flight yesterday wearing jorts and a dirty t-shirt in FC SEA-JFK. Did I look twice? Sure. Does that make me a fashionista? Gosh I hope not; I don't look the part.